WI Union-busting provisions added in budget committee

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

That is silly. There are several factors involved with strangling the life out of public education. To cop out and say teacher unions are 100 percent responsible for education problems is a complete cop out as well. Poverty doesn't play a factor at all? I drink nothing...ever....honestly. I reqally don't. As a type 1 diabetic for the brunt of my life, over drinking would simply not be prudent. When my mom and dad went to work the existence of unions played zero role in what they were trying to accomplish day to day. Yes, they existed, but our views are coming from two different points of view. If you think you know more about the inner workings of public education day to day than I do dream on. I lived it.

The problem is you are looking at it solely from your own personal experience. No one said that teachers unions are 100% responsible but they have to take the lions share of the blame. They are the single most powerful bloc involved with education and the huge national unions overwhelm the local boards and set up systems and rules that squeeze every penny they can into their coffers often at the expense of the students.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...concludes.html

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The problem is you are looking at it solely from your own personal experience. No one said that teachers unions are 100% responsible but they have to take the lions share of the blame. They are the single most powerful bloc involved with education and the huge national unions overwhelm the local boards and set up systems and rules that squeeze every penny they can into their coffers often at the expense of the students.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...concludes.html

Ok. I really don't think they are the lions share to blame either. I think the end result of all of this is the ending of public education in this country which is a shame. I see what is going on here in Idaho where I live now where it is overwhelmingly conservative and we are slowly turning our public education into home schooling. The current state superintendant was financed by home schooling corporations in his election and low and behold we are now requiring several on line classes by all students at the expense of a thousand teachers losing jobs...a massive increase in class size and laptops now being provided to all high school kids. And guess who will provide that on-line learnin'?? Could it be the corporations who financed his election!!! You don't say now do you!! I have no problem with home schooling for those who choose it, but I don't want my kids doing it in public schools which they will be now. My daughter won't be affected too much as she is nearly done, but my 3 boys will be and it will stink. Collective bargaining has been ended here and the unions pretty much shot which is the goal most places but here in Idaho it isn't a big news state so gets ignored, but I see home schooling being implemented with these required on line classes with teachers being turned into glorified baby sitters then turned into that completely.

Even in extremely conservative Idaho there was a recall attempt at the current state superintendant for what he is implementing but it failed...not quite enough signatures in time. This is where we are headed and I can't stand it.