Random observations on 9/11

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2...r-the-top?lite

on mitt jumping the gun with criticisms before he got all the facts. yet some will still think he'll be 'better than obama'. at what?

this is the media's fault.

When the consulate was first stormed, and the flags were replaced with islamic flags, I was reading CNN and they gave the Obama Admin statement of
“efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.”

which, after reading that, pissed me the fucl< off.

If that Obama Admin statement was about Terry Jones and not about the consulate being attacked... then the way the media portrayed it was wrong.

I had the same reaction to the statement as Romney did.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

this is the media's fault.

When the consulate was first stormed, and the flags were replaced with islamic flags, I was reading CNN and they gave the Obama Admin statement of
“efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.”

which, after reading that, pissed me the fucl< off.

If that Obama Admin statement was about Terry Jones and not about the consulate being attacked... then the way the media portrayed it was wrong.

I had the same reaction to the statement as Romney did.

but, lori, you can't actually have an effect on things...romney could. he should know not to pop off before he gets all the details, because they matter.
as the article said, the part about 'feelings' was issued before the attack occurred.
now he has to backtrack again, and it's no one's fault but his. former presidents keep mum on things like this, with reason. perhaps candidates should as well? he's not in charge, a question on what his policy would be in a situation like this is something to ask as a rhetorical question. and he should have said something like, it's a developing story-until more is known, i have no comment. beats looking like a neophyte, or having to apoligize, or just plain looking like he's clueless-again.


just saw this, on the romney campaigns 'odd response'

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20..._protests.html

romney decided to condemn pre-attack statements as tho they came after the attack. and they had time before their 'embargo' ended to get it straight.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

but, lori, you can't actually have an effect on things...romney could. he should know not to pop off before he gets all the details, because they matter.
as the article said, the part about 'feelings' was issued before the attack occurred.
now he has to backtrack again, and it's no one's fault but his. former presidents keep mum on things like this, with reason. perhaps candidates should as well? he's not in charge, a question on what his policy would be in a situation like this is something to ask as a rhetorical question. and he should have said something like, it's a developing story-until more is known, i have no comment. beats looking like a neophyte, or having to apoligize, or just plain looking like he's clueless-again.


just saw this, on the romney campaigns 'odd response'

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20..._protests.html

romney decided to condemn pre-attack statements as tho they came after the attack. and they had time before their 'embargo' ended to get it straight.

i do agree that obviously his voice is a lot louder than mine.. and I agree politicians should sit and think before they speak (then again... what good does it do when they sit and think also?).

but I'm telling you, the media seems to mix and match so much it is hard to keep anything straight. Plus the whole thing about them reporting what they want to report, not facts and truths.

[dellinger63]

Used to be considered an act of war when a enemy attacked an embassy, including replacing flags with their own and responded to as such.

Now it's verbally condemned. We're acting like a bunch of pussies pretending the U.N. is our big brother and our enemies know it.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Used to be considered an act of war when a enemy attacked an embassy, including replacing flags with their own and responded to as such.

Now it's verbally condemned. We're acting like a bunch of pussies pretending the U.N. is our big brother and our enemies know it.

And how would we finance this additional war Del? Go play World of Warcraft to get it our of your system. Let the adults discuss realworld issues with consequences and mitagating circumstances.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

And how would we finance this additional war Del? Go play World of Warcraft to get it our of your system. Let the adults discuss realworld issues with consequences and mitagating circumstances.

hehe


who exactly would we declare on anyway?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Danzig

hehe


who exactly would we declare on anyway?

Everyone else, let's just bring it and use all this military we have built up. Flex a little muscle.

Even Australia.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Used to be considered an act of war when a enemy attacked an embassy, including replacing flags with their own and responded to as such.

Now it's verbally condemned. We're acting like a bunch of pussies pretending the U.N. is our big brother and our enemies know it.

are you suggesting we should go in guns blazing and dropping bombs?

yeah, just what we need.

[Clip-Clop]

No more Embassy in Egypy, no representation of any kind in either country. No more aid.

Go down the same path we did after 9/11!!

Quick!! Someone detain del! You never know!! Make sure he isn't hiding anything in his *******.

Now lets get over there and show those derkas what America is all about. Herpa derp yee haw I'm an angry coward who sucks the cock of Satan! I want revenge GOD DAMNIT!!

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

are you suggesting we should go in guns blazing and dropping bombs?

yeah, just what we need.

Those responsible for attacking need to be killed one way or another. We also need to stop all support to any country Islamic or not until they grow out of the stone age.

When a country treats their own women as abbused pets how can they be expected to be civil to outsiders?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Those responsible for attacking need to be killed one way or another. We also need to stop all support to any country Islamic or not until they grow out of the stone age.

When a country treats their own women as abbused pets how can they be expected to be civil to outsiders?

isolate ourselves. Protect the fucl< out of our borders and country. Let them kill each other. Oh yeah, and build our own stuff in the process

But hey, I'm a crazy libertarian.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

i do agree that obviously his voice is a lot louder than mine.. and I agree politicians should sit and think before they speak (then again... what good does it do when they sit and think also?).

but I'm telling you, the media seems to mix and match so much it is hard to keep anything straight. Plus the whole thing about them reporting what they want to report, not facts and truths.

no, i still feel this is something that romney has to take full credit for. he popped off far too quickly. saw this:

http://www.theamericanhuman.com/2012...self-from.html

and i agree with what noonan said in there.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no, i still feel this is something that romney has to take full credit for. he popped off far too quickly. saw this:

http://www.theamericanhuman.com/2012...self-from.html

and i agree with what noonan said in there.

seems like Romney is stealing from the Obama/Rahm playbook of "never let a crisis go to waste"

Good luck ever getting a politician to own up to a mistake.

Also, embassy's and politicians should stop tweeting. I really dont want to hear that you condemn a muslim movie while your walls are being breached by radical muslims. I really, really do not want to hear (see) that. and yes, it was posted before, and during the attacks.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

seems like Romney is stealing from the Obama/Rahm playbook of "never let a crisis go to waste"

Good luck ever getting a politician to own up to a mistake.

Also, embassy's and politicians should stop tweeting. I really dont want to hear that you condemn a muslim movie while your walls are being breached by radical muslims. I really, really do not want to hear (see) that. and yes, it was posted before, and during the attacks.

twitter should be reserved for dumbass actors and the like. i can't believe govt agencies feel it's a place to try to get things across when you're limited to a certain amount of characters.
i don't want to see a diplomat putting out something like 'o no. bombed. russia sux.' or 'u need 2 send troops 4 help. n trble. thx.' lord, what's the world coming to?

[Clip-Clop]

Copied from a good friend of mine's FB page. He is former Army SF and spent three years in Iraq/Afghanistan.


After reading all the various solemn remembrances for 9/11, I can't help but thinking:

Holy ****, it's 2012!!! STOP! When can we stop letting the act of 19 maniacs dictate the future of our country? Isn't 11 years enough? UBL is dead. Saddam is dead. Uday and Qusay are dead. About 5 layers of AQ leadership is dead. The #2 for AQAP (what is this, the fifth one?) got whacked again this week. The 18 year old enlisted soldiers we're still sending to Afghanistan were 7 years old in 2001. 7!! What are they remembering?! We've suffered thousands dead, tens of thousands wounded and maimed, and spent over $1 TRILLION dollars chasing bands of man-dress wearing tribesmen shod in sandals and sneakers.

We didn't fight the Vietnamese this long. We didn't fight the Japanese this long. We fought Germany twice and COMBINED it wasn't for this long. We settled secession and slavery in less than half the time we've been chasing the Taliban. Hell, we didn't even fight the British this long for our own independence. Can we finally start a new chapter in our country's history?