Random observations on 9/11

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no, i still feel this is something that romney has to take full credit for. he popped off far too quickly. saw this:

http://www.theamericanhuman.com/2012...self-from.html

and i agree with what noonan said in there.

seems like Romney is stealing from the Obama/Rahm playbook of "never let a crisis go to waste"

Good luck ever getting a politician to own up to a mistake.

Also, embassy's and politicians should stop tweeting. I really dont want to hear that you condemn a muslim movie while your walls are being breached by radical muslims. I really, really do not want to hear (see) that. and yes, it was posted before, and during the attacks.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

seems like Romney is stealing from the Obama/Rahm playbook of "never let a crisis go to waste"

Good luck ever getting a politician to own up to a mistake.

Also, embassy's and politicians should stop tweeting. I really dont want to hear that you condemn a muslim movie while your walls are being breached by radical muslims. I really, really do not want to hear (see) that. and yes, it was posted before, and during the attacks.

twitter should be reserved for dumbass actors and the like. i can't believe govt agencies feel it's a place to try to get things across when you're limited to a certain amount of characters.
i don't want to see a diplomat putting out something like 'o no. bombed. russia sux.' or 'u need 2 send troops 4 help. n trble. thx.' lord, what's the world coming to?

[Clip-Clop]

Copied from a good friend of mine's FB page. He is former Army SF and spent three years in Iraq/Afghanistan.


After reading all the various solemn remembrances for 9/11, I can't help but thinking:

Holy ****, it's 2012!!! STOP! When can we stop letting the act of 19 maniacs dictate the future of our country? Isn't 11 years enough? UBL is dead. Saddam is dead. Uday and Qusay are dead. About 5 layers of AQ leadership is dead. The #2 for AQAP (what is this, the fifth one?) got whacked again this week. The 18 year old enlisted soldiers we're still sending to Afghanistan were 7 years old in 2001. 7!! What are they remembering?! We've suffered thousands dead, tens of thousands wounded and maimed, and spent over $1 TRILLION dollars chasing bands of man-dress wearing tribesmen shod in sandals and sneakers.

We didn't fight the Vietnamese this long. We didn't fight the Japanese this long. We fought Germany twice and COMBINED it wasn't for this long. We settled secession and slavery in less than half the time we've been chasing the Taliban. Hell, we didn't even fight the British this long for our own independence. Can we finally start a new chapter in our country's history?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Copied from a good friend of mine's FB page. He is former Army SF and spent three years in Iraq/Afghanistan.


After reading all the various solemn remembrances for 9/11, I can't help but thinking:

Holy ****, it's 2012!!! STOP! When can we stop letting the act of 19 maniacs dictate the future of our country? Isn't 11 years enough? UBL is dead. Saddam is dead. Uday and Qusay are dead. About 5 layers of AQ leadership is dead. The #2 for AQAP (what is this, the fifth one?) got whacked again this week. The 18 year old enlisted soldiers we're still sending to Afghanistan were 7 years old in 2001. 7!! What are they remembering?! We've suffered thousands dead, tens of thousands wounded and maimed, and spent over $1 TRILLION dollars chasing bands of man-dress wearing tribesmen shod in sandals and sneakers.

We didn't fight the Vietnamese this long. We didn't fight the Japanese this long. We fought Germany twice and COMBINED it wasn't for this long. We settled secession and slavery in less than half the time we've been chasing the Taliban. Hell, we didn't even fight the British this long for our own independence. Can we finally start a new chapter in our country's history?

And that's why they are going after veterans. They know too much.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

And that's why they are going after veterans. They know too much.

our own Homeland Security labeled veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan as likely domestic terrorists. Good ol' Janet Napolitano... another fine moment for the Obama Administration.


Patriot act... according to Congress... was supposed to save us from "terrorists". Guess how easy it is to change the definition of "terrorists"?

People are too worried about the definition of marriage.. or the definition of when life begins... that they dont worry that our own government will label you a terrorist and take away rights granted to you by the consitution if you dont think the way they do.

Sad thing is that neither guy elected in November will do anything to change this for the better. Taking away Americans rights is the only bi-partisan agreement our politicians have.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

our own Homeland Security labeled veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan as likely domestic terrorists. Good ol' Janet Napolitano... another fine moment for the Obama Administration.


Patriot act... according to Congress... was supposed to save us from "terrorists". Guess how easy it is to change the definition of "terrorists"?

People are too worried about the definition of marriage.. or the definition of when life begins... that they dont worry that our own government will label you a terrorist and take away rights granted to you by the consitution if you dont think the way they do.

Sad thing is that neither guy elected in November will do anything to change this for the better. Taking away Americans rights is the only bi-partisan agreement our politicians have.

yeah, that act reminded me of the alien and sedition act from back when adams was president. it cost him a second term-but not bush! it's too bad that, just like in so many cases, the ones who do nothing wrong are the ones who pay.
it's a big mess, and won't get better any time soon. we need to step back from everything we've involved ourselves in. we need to really re-think our approaches to policy, both domestic and foreign.
pointman, above, mentioned egypt and libya and their govts-but my main thought on it is why should we care? why is it our problem? why did we ever decide to get involved in issues all over?

i just read napoleans bio, and part of his plam, and the french govts, was that they wanted to spread their revolution all over. look where that got him, them, and france.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I will pass the trophy along. Uday was his his team in Mosul.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Copied from a good friend of mine's FB page. He is former Army SF and spent three years in Iraq/Afghanistan.


After reading all the various solemn remembrances for 9/11, I can't help but thinking:

Holy ****, it's 2012!!! STOP! When can we stop letting the act of 19 maniacs dictate the future of our country? Isn't 11 years enough? UBL is dead. Saddam is dead. Uday and Qusay are dead. About 5 layers of AQ leadership is dead. The #2 for AQAP (what is this, the fifth one?) got whacked again this week. The 18 year old enlisted soldiers we're still sending to Afghanistan were 7 years old in 2001. 7!! What are they remembering?! We've suffered thousands dead, tens of thousands wounded and maimed, and spent over $1 TRILLION dollars chasing bands of man-dress wearing tribesmen shod in sandals and sneakers.

We didn't fight the Vietnamese this long. We didn't fight the Japanese this long. We fought Germany twice and COMBINED it wasn't for this long. We settled secession and slavery in less than half the time we've been chasing the Taliban. Hell, we didn't even fight the British this long for our own independence. Can we finally start a new chapter in our country's history?

It's all about lining the pockets of the Milatary industrial complex and those that invest in it.. A kid's life is simply raw material. And it is disgusting.