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05-13-2012, 03:21 PM
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The one ignoring reality is you. You say that "eliminating lasix will ruin horseracing". To make a statement like that you must be totally out of touch with reality. For years we had no lasix in this country and racing was great. In other countries they have no lasix and racing is great. So how would eliminating lasix ruin racing? 
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05-13-2012, 03:26 PM
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But you hold on to your tiny minority opinion about lasix as a root of evil in horse racing. Either you believe in therapeutic medication and modern veterinary medicine for hard-working equine athletes, or you do not. You don't. Yeah: I say that attitude isn't good for the horse, and will ruin racing.
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05-13-2012, 03:32 PM
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Do you think there are instances where therapeutic medication is used when not indicated, overused, or even abused?
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05-13-2012, 03:42 PM
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The very definition of therapeutic medication is that used at the proper dose, under veterinary supervision, for the proper indication.
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05-13-2012, 05:40 PM
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There is a cadre of people that want all medication eliminated from race day use. That's great. Unfortunately for some of these old, white, rich guys who run racing, the veterinary and scientific community dared to say back to them, "We agree, eliminate all adjuncts, all NSAIDS, all illegal drugs - but not lasix - it's a valuable therapeutic and beneficial and necessary for the health and welfare of the horse". So now that cadre is pissed. They don't want to allow lasix on race days. They want all drugs eliminated. How dare the veterinary community tell them they are wrong on this. So some are now outright lying about lasix, nitpicking sentences from science papers to misinform, doing anything to try and prove lasix isn't therapeutic and helpful, that the science community is wrong, that old white rich horse owners are right, and lasix deserves being banned. "The science community is lying about the research". False. "Vets want lasix use just for the money". False. "Lasix masks other drugs". False. "Lasix is a hop". False. "Vets are lying about the amount of bleeding". False. The plutocrats have attacked the messengers, and attacked and lied about the message. It goes on and on. It's beyond absurd. I don't give a damn what someone elses' opinion is on race day medications, as long as it's formed from reality and not lies. If we eliminate lasix on race day, we had better be prepared for the physical damage we will do to race horses. The "eliminate all drugs" plutocrats better stop trying to slide out of that responsibility by making up lies about the drug and the veterinary community. Because we know better, and the public will, too. We're not going to stand for silly old rich guys agreeing to harm race horses just so their egos and preconceived ideas are not threatened. No matter how often they call us liars and say we really don't put the horse first. Eff you, old rich white racing guys. Somebody is putting the horse first, and it certainly isn't you.
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"Have the clean racing people run any ads explaining that giving a horse a Starbucks and a chocolate poppyseed muffin for breakfast would likely result in a ten year suspension for the trainer?" - Dr. Andrew Roberts Last edited by Riot : 05-13-2012 at 05:57 PM.
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05-13-2012, 07:58 PM
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The idea that the outcome of races can be manipulated by the amount of lasix given is completely without merit.
While I dont agree that the elimination of lasix will ruin racing, it surely wont have a positive effect in the short or long term especially as it contributes to a continued decline in the number of owners nationwide. Surely the added expense along with the decrease in value of a large number of horses cant be a positive regardless of how you look at it. The idea that the playing field is leveled w/o lasix is just plain wrong, it will be muddled as trainers and vets try new techniques with widely varying results. There is a serious shortage of owners coming into the game and the number of empty stalls at tracks across the country is increasing. The decline in foal crop is far less significant than the decline in people to own them. The common theme that less racing is going to lead to some revival as all the horses from the tracks that close are going to migrate to the surviving tracks is just not going to happen either. Racing has been shrinking for 20 years, getting smaller wont help except to further marginalize it and create more barriers to finding new participants. What racings leaders have failed to grasp is that people will choose to walk away and have been doing it for years now. Both owners and bettors are leaving yet the new strategy we get from the people with the money is a crusade against a diureitic with the side effect of enormous negative publicity giving every potential enemy of the game a free shot to stick a fork in its side.
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05-13-2012, 03:47 PM
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05-13-2012, 03:49 PM
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Considering that the health and welfare of the horse enables horse racing's existence, it's not really hyperbole.
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