Occupy Wall Street

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

are you saying only hib's work at the track? i don't think so. but anyone who takes that job is ok, but if an hib, they're being taken advantage of? no, not at all. it's a better situation than at home, which is why they do it. they aren't forced to accept those jobs.

Please show me where I said that??? Otherwise cut the bull with trying to frame my post to something other that supports your response. Thank you in advance.

So here is the deal. When someone gets an H1B visa they are allowed ONLY to work for their sponsor. Their only option is to leave, they are not free to find a company that will pay them more. They have ZERO bargining power. Is That a Free Market? So American labor forced to compete with indentured servitude. Wouldn't the removal of that restriction level the playing field a bit? And the if they don't like it leave response doesn't address the issue and certainly won't get us out of this depression.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Please show me where I said that??? Otherwise cut the bull with trying to frame my post to something other that supports your response. Thank you in advance.

So here is the deal. When someone gets an H1B visa they are allowed ONLY to work for their sponsor. Their only option is to leave, they are not free to find a company that will pay them more. They have ZERO bargining power. Is That a Free Market? So American labor forced to compete with indentured servitude. Wouldn't the removal of that restriction level the playing field a bit? And the if they don't like it leave response doesn't address the issue and certainly won't get us out of this depression.

no need to get snarky. i quoted your post, above, where you said people have no issue with taking advantage of h1b's. i've been to the backside of tracks, it was a cross section of people, just like anywhere else.

h1b's make the choice they make; it's not forced on them. many come here because it's better than where they are, they make more money here than where they are. they don't come here as indentured servants-that's ridiculous. obviously if it wasn't worth their while, they wouldn't come!
everything is based on supply and demand. if the money offered isn't enough, people don't take the offer. the offer rises. that's generally how things work-whereas in selling products, you state a price, if no takers you lower it.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no need to get snarky. i quoted your post, above, where you said people have no issue with taking advantage of h1b's. i've been to the backside of tracks, it was a cross section of people, just like anywhere else.

h1b's make the choice they make; it's not forced on them. many come here because it's better than where they are, they make more money here than where they are. they don't come here as indentured servants-that's ridiculous. obviously if it wasn't worth their while, they wouldn't come!
everything is based on supply and demand. if the money offered isn't enough, people don't take the offer. the offer rises. that's generally how things work-whereas in selling products, you state a price, if no takers you lower it.

Sorry if you thought I was Snarky but that is a pet peeve of mine. You totally didn't address the key part of my point. The indentured servitude, "so are you saying" it is fine for Americans to compete agains Quasi-Slave labor

[Danzig]

i guess i didn't address the point, because i'm not getting the point. you see it as forced labor, or indentured labor, i don't.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i guess i didn't address the point, because i'm not getting the point. you see it as forced labor, or indentured labor, i don't.

That is true and our politicions also don't get the point meanwhile we slide deeper into the abyss, millions losing their homes, children going to bed hungry and we continue to look the other way as China and India invade and take over the country from the inside out. Me, I'm fine and you are probably to.. For Now.. If we continue on this path your grandchildren certainly won't be fine.

[Danzig]

well, just look at that billion we spent to get qaddafi. no doubt that'll pay handsome dividends.
of course, right now everything is just pissing me off. i'm in a foul mood.

[clyde]

Say something dirty.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

well, just look at that billion we spent to get qaddafi. no doubt that'll pay handsome dividends.
of course, right now everything is just pissing me off. i'm in a foul mood.

I bought into him bringing home the troops so we have some common ground.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

China and India invade and take over the country from the inside out. Me, I'm fine and you are probably to.. For Now.. If we continue on this path your grandchildren certainly won't be fine.

My work predominately deals in the hospitality industry and I am very familiar with east Indians and their businesses. Simply put they have a work ethic Americans, as a whole, don't have. In their culture it's common to have a owner of as many as a dozen hotels still willing to fill in for a absent maid and vacuum or run extra towels etc. They start out with a six unit 'dive', with a couple thousand down, save every penny they can by having the entire family working and move up the ladder. It is in their culture to own and operate their own business and it is not uncommon for a M.D. to give up his/her practice to focus solely on hotels after just being an investor.

During a interview where the question, 'What are your hobbies?' was asked, a man who owned over a dozen hotels worth between $3 and $10 million each answered, 'I have no hobbies. Hobbies cost money'.

Face it, we can't compete with that!