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Old 06-07-2011, 10:39 AM
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LOL you're crazy. someone calls out your poor and biased opinion, and now I'm a Zenyatta fan? thats a heck of an arguement. you should feel proud of your debating. I'm not even a Miami Heat fan, but I dont hate LeBron like you an others do. I just see it for what it is. and check out the 2010-2011 stats I posted, Lebron is the closer for the Heat.
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Old 06-07-2011, 04:54 PM
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LOL you're crazy. someone calls out your poor and biased opinion, and now I'm a Zenyatta fan? thats a heck of an arguement. you should feel proud of your debating. I'm not even a Miami Heat fan, but I dont hate LeBron like you an others do. I just see it for what it is. and check out the 2010-2011 stats I posted, Lebron is the closer for the Heat.
You know I love you, but you need some help with reading comprehension. I never said you were a Zenyatta fan. I compared the situations, where anyone who wouldn't annoint her as Best Evah were called haters. That is what you're doing here. I'm a hater and I hate Lebron because I don't think he's the bestest evah? That's a strong arguement

I don't hate Lebron. I just don't think he's the best player on his team, therefore IMO he isn't the best player in the world.

You keep putting words in my mouth in an effort to "win" but it isn't working. Defense and passing are huge. I'm not saying it isn't. Wade is pretty good at both also.

Sorry if I don't buy into stats that have Dirk 8th best clutch player in the league. I prefer watching games. No one watching games could possibly agree Dirk is 8th.
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:01 PM
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who do you think would be the first player taken if there was a draft of all league players?

and the stats where Dirk ranks 8th, I'd say the top 25 or 30 players on that list are very clutch. That stat is just adding up all the points in "clutch situations". So if Dirk is averaging 40 plus points in clutch situations per 48 minutes, its still pretty damn good and very clutch. The stat basically shows that LeBron has been there with more points in crunch time than Wade has this year, eventhough Wade is still a top player in the league during the final 5 minutes when there is 5 points or less seperating the teams. Though I still feel that clutch defense is as important as clutch offense.
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:16 PM
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who do you think would be the first player taken if there was a draft of all league players?
Probably Lebron. You still aren't addressing my point, but at least you didn't call me a hater.

Now I have a question for you. If they had an anonymous survey of NBA players and coaches and one player had to take the last shot with time winding down, where do you think Lebron would finish if it were between him, Kobe, Wade and Dirk?

In regards to the stats, with Lebron "closing out" games during the regular season do you think it's ironic that is when they had so many issues. The losing streaks, players crying after games....all while Lebron was "closing out" those games.
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:26 PM
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Probably Lebron. You still aren't addressing my point, but at least you didn't call me a hater.

Now I have a question for you. If they had an anonymous survey of NBA players and coaches and one player had to take the last shot with time winding down, where do you think Lebron would finish if it were between him, Kobe, Wade and Dirk?

In regards to the stats, with Lebron "closing out" games during the regular season do you think it's ironic that is when they had so many issues. The losing streaks, players crying after games....all while Lebron was "closing out" those games.
Kobe hands down would be the pick. I'd personally pick Lebron 2nd. Though I would have no problem with the ball in Dirk or Wade's hands.

and the 3rd paragraph, every season has ups and downs, so I dont find anything ironic. Especially when this is the first season the three have played together, and they have a weak bench. They still won enough games to be the #2 seed.
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Old 06-07-2011, 05:29 PM
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Kobe
Wade
Toss up between Dirk and LeBron for 3rd.

That's being fair. Not a hater just don't feel he deserves the accolades. It's excessive and borderline hero worship.
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Old 06-07-2011, 06:07 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMYza...eature=related

This is the first game after the famous all star "freeze out" during Jordan's second year. I think sometimes we forget how incredible MJ was.

I give Lebron, Magic, kobe, etc their respect but I don't know how anyone in their right mind could question whether or not MJ was the best of all time. This is just his second year and its against one of the better defensive teams in the league at the time. This is before he learned how to shoot
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:34 PM
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Great flop, King.
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Old 06-07-2011, 11:47 PM
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Eight points and wanted no part of the ball in the fourth quarter. Let's hear it.
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