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Old 06-05-2011, 10:06 PM
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Truer words have never been spoken. You watch Dirk, struggling so hard to find buckets for his team because he's the only one who can do it, then you watch LeBron, running away from the paint and passing the ball to Wade and Bosh to score because they're the only ones who can do it, and you think, best player in the world?
Did you even watch any second of the Miami/Chicago series?? Great passing is a skill possessed by LeBron regardless of how much anyone likes him. I think the pass to Bosh for the last basket made is a play you want one of your players to make. That is called a winning basketball play. He made it. Call me crazy.
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Old 06-05-2011, 10:35 PM
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What he did against Chicago was nice. This is the Finals, and he's contributed next to nothing offensively in the fourth quarters of the two biggest games.
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Old 06-06-2011, 12:02 AM
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Truer words have never been spoken. You watch Dirk, struggling so hard to find buckets for his team because he's the only one who can do it, then you watch LeBron, running away from the paint and passing the ball to Wade and Bosh to score because they're the only ones who can do it, and you think, best player in the world?
This is kind of petty. Is passing not a skill? If the guy took the shots you would call him selfish or stupid for not getting the ball to the guys who were hot.
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Old 06-06-2011, 08:46 AM
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Did you even watch any second of the Miami/Chicago series?? Great passing is a skill possessed by LeBron regardless of how much anyone likes him. I think the pass to Bosh for the last basket made is a play you want one of your players to make. That is called a winning basketball play. He made it. Call me crazy.
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What he did against Chicago was nice. This is the Finals, and he's contributed next to nothing offensively in the fourth quarters of the two biggest games.
two biggest games? game one doesnt count?
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Old 06-06-2011, 10:15 AM
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two biggest games? game one doesnt count?
Game 1 is the most meaningless game in a 7-game series. And Chuck, don't tell me he's the best player in the world when he's getting carried by a teammate late in these games.
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Old 06-06-2011, 12:24 PM
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How big was that half court heave 3 pointer Chalmers made at half time? It was back court violation that wasn't called.
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Old 06-06-2011, 12:54 PM
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Game 1 is the most meaningless game in a 7-game series. And Chuck, don't tell me he's the best player in the world when he's getting carried by a teammate late in these games.
C'mon this is weak. It's Dwayne freakin Wade, not John Starks. Probably the 2nd or 3rd best scorer in the world. You are holding him to a standard that cant possibly be met because you don't like him. I was never a fan of Larry Bird but I respected his game.
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Old 06-06-2011, 12:59 PM
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Why is LeBron being compared to guys with multiple championships?

He's not one of the greats. Deal with it.
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:06 PM
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Why is LeBron being compared to guys with multiple championships?

He's not one of the greats. Deal with it.
he's still in the midst of his prime and had to carry a pretty bad team for years. Look at cleveland post Lebron... 23 straight losses or something like that?

I can understand not liking the guy or his "decision", but the talent is there and he's one of the best players in the league, if not the best. He also happens to play with one of the best players in the league, if not the best, so what's the big deal if D-Wade scores points at the end of games and Lebron makes assists?
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:08 PM
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C'mon this is weak. It's Dwayne freakin Wade, not John Starks. Probably the 2nd or 3rd best scorer in the world. You are holding him to a standard that cant possibly be met because you don't like him. I was never a fan of Larry Bird but I respected his game.
Nine points in three fourth quarters. If you think that's worthy of the best player in the world, we have different ideas of what that means. He's a great talent, but it's painfully obvious that he's not even the best player on his team. Wade is the reason they'll win this series if they win it.
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:11 PM
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you should let the series play itself out.

Lebron is a huge reason they are in the Finals to begin with. He's been the MVP of the playoffs so far along with Dirk.
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:15 PM
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he's still in the midst of his prime and had to carry a pretty bad team for years. Look at cleveland post Lebron... 23 straight losses or something like that?

I can understand not liking the guy or his "decision", but the talent is there and he's one of the best players in the league, if not the best. He also happens to play with one of the best players in the league, if not the best, so what's the big deal if D-Wade scores points at the end of games and Lebron makes assists?

Uncly...please don't get me started.

He probably has the most talent....but what you went on to say about when he was here and when he left,is not accurate nor pretty.
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:20 PM
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Uncly...please don't get me started.

He probably has the most talent....but what you went on to say about when he was here and when he left,is not accurate nor pretty.
How many times do you think Cleveland makes the playoffs with out LeBron since the year they drafted him?
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:25 PM
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sorry Morty you are right. i think it was 26 losses in a row, not 23. My mistake!
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:28 PM
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How many times do you think Cleveland makes the playoffs with out LeBron since the year they drafted him?

Well I don't know...because without him Cleveland drafts someone else----and then everything changes.


But you are going to make me correct you.

Pretty bad teams?

Teams don't win 50+ 4 times all because of one player.They don't win 66 because of only one player. By your measure, Cleveland was better a better TEAM than Miami in James' last year here than in his first year with them.

And we lost him AND our only 2 centers..completely changed the strategy with a new coach and then lost the Brazilian as well as the point guard as well as the power forward we got from Washington.The 3 best players at that time.Raw rookies and the little experienced then joined in the fun.

Really,really.
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:29 PM
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sorry Morty you are right. i think it was 26 losses in a row, not 23. My mistake!


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Old 06-06-2011, 01:32 PM
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How many times do you think Cleveland makes the playoffs with out LeBron since the year they drafted him?
They probably would have made them every year cause if they didn't draft Lebron they would have had Carmello.
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:34 PM
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That's it...I'm leaving!
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Old 06-06-2011, 01:36 PM
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They probably would have made them every year cause if they didn't draft Lebron they would have had Carmello.
and they still wouldnt have any rings!!! (sorry clyde)

Lebron is a much better basketball player than Melo. If the Cavs had drafted Wade who knows what would have happened.
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