Oh no...it'll never happen?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

And Obamacare is going to be any better?

What - exactly - do you dislike about Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act? That children can now remain insured on their parents policies until they are 26? That sick children cannot be kicked out of being insured for life due to exceeding a "lifetime cap of benefits" by the time they are eight years old? That your insurance company can't suddenly deny a claim based upon a pre-existing condition?

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

What - exactly - do you dislike about Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act? That children can now remain insured on their parents policies until they are 26? That sick children cannot be kicked out of being insured for life due to exceeding a "lifetime cap of benefits" by the time they are eight years old? That your insurance company can't suddenly deny a claim based upon a pre-existing condition?

There are some good points to this stuff. The point that I am against this bill is why should a unemployed person who isn't looking for work get another free handout. Won't they be covered under this bill? Im hoping it doesn't happen. It won't be fair to the working people who have to support trash like that. I heard that unemployment benefits are now a taxable item.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

There are some good points to this stuff. The point that I am against this bill is why should a unemployed person who isn't looking for work get another free handout. Won't they be covered under this bill?.

Not really any differently than they are today via Medicaid. The bill expands Medicaid availability to those earning up to 133% of the federal poverty level.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Not really any differently than they are today via Medicaid. The bill expands Medicaid availability to those earning up to 133% of the federal poverty level.

What is your view on a worthless unemployed person not looking for a job getting another handout? Do you think it's fair to all of the working people and the unemployed people who are actually trying to find work? Also I am curious what the premiums are going to be. Im just glad I won't be using that worthless insurance.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

What is your view on a worthless unemployed person not looking for a job getting another handout? Do you think it's fair to all of the working people and the unemployed people who are actually trying to find work? Also I am curious what the premiums are going to be. Im just glad I won't be using that worthless insurance.

How about a worthless person stealing our money by collecting a government pension??? Why should the government still be paying pensions when nearly every company has done away with them and switched to 401-K?

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

How about a worthless person stealing our money by collecting a government pension??? Why should the government still be paying pensions when nearly every company has done away with them and switched to 401-K?

Im in agreement with you on that also. It's a bunch of BS that stuff like that happens.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by jms62

How about a worthless person stealing our money by collecting a government pension??? Why should the government still be paying pensions when nearly every company has done away with them and switched to 401-K?

There is something so incredibly rich about this comment and how it went over.

Well done, jms.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

There is something so incredibly rich about this comment and how it went over.

Well done, jms.

I was waiting for someone to catch it.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

How about a worthless person stealing our money by collecting a government pension??? Why should the government still be paying pensions when nearly every company has done away with them and switched to 401-K?

I earned my pension by giving up 20 years of my life for this country? Maybe this country should go to a draft or make people after high school join the military like they do in other countries. Im sure if there was a draft you would have draft dodgers.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I earned my pension by giving up 20 years of my life for this country? Maybe this country should go to a draft or make people after high school join the military like they do in other countries. Im sure if there was a draft you would have draft dodgers.

I agree we should have a draft and I agree with you also that we should get rid of pensions for government employees altogether and have a matching 401K plan while they are serving or working. We both know the pension model is a failing model just look at the Big-3.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I earned my pension by giving up 20 years of my life for this country? Maybe this country should go to a draft or make people after high school join the military like they do in other countries. Im sure if there was a draft you would have draft dodgers.

Please, we are a bit too smart to fall for this patriotic bullshi<t. You gave up 20 years of your life because it was a career path you chose. Let's call a spade a spade here. By your postings here we can go all in at 1 to 10 that college was never a realistic option. The military however was a choice where unless you totally fuc<k up will continue to pay a salary and provide an obscene retirement. Your job wasn't going to get outsourced or eliminated due to downsizing regardless of how well you performed in it. It was a very safe choice. So you post on here about all "worthless" folks collecting unemploymemt. Some of these folks have paid their SUI for 20-30 years but they are considered "worthless" to you because they won't take a minimum wage job to replace their 6 figure salary and instead continue to search. You continually complain about our debt yet find no problem whatsoever with governement pensions... You find no problem with someone who serves in the military for 20 years and collects 50% of their last paycheck for the next 45 years. You are exactly what is wrong with the country. Unwilling to see anything outside of their circumstances. I got mine fuc>k everyone else.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

What is your view on a worthless unemployed person not looking for a job getting another handout?.

Easy, she doesn't believe there is such a thing. Or they are so rare they need to be cared for and protected as any other endangered animal.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Easy, she doesn't believe there is such a thing. Or they are so rare they need to be cared for and protected as any other endangered animal.

At least now unemployed people have to pay taxes on thier unemployment benefits from what I hear.

[AeWingnut]

got the glamore shots in the mail
thanks

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

At least now unemployed people have to pay taxes on thier unemployment benefits from what I hear.

People have paid taxes on their unemployment benefits for years. Not new. The taxes can be withheld.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

What - exactly - do you dislike

Easy, the fact the government is forcing the healthy and fit to pay for the unhealthy and obese disguised as mandatory coverage and subsidization. Next?

[dellinger63]

lol but I'm sure she has an independent Blue Cross policy thru her bizness.

IMO Guide and console her to death now and save a fortune! I just spoke democrat!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...r-sitting.html

[AeWingnut]

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Easy, the fact the government is forcing the healthy and fit to pay for the unhealthy and obese disguised as mandatory coverage and subsidization. Next?

Right now, and for the past several decades, the healthy and fit pay for the unhealthy and obese. This will decrease those costs. GASP!

"Disguised as mandatory coverage and subsidization" that makes no sense. You'll have to use the Dell Detranslator to rephrase what you are trying to say.

I suppose you don't know that there is, specifically and deliberately written into the bill, zero ability to collect any penalty for not purchasing insurance.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I suppose you don't know that there is, specifically and deliberately written into the bill, zero ability to collect any penalty for not purchasing insurance.

Then we're all good. But I think you're wrong as usual.