Oh no...it'll never happen?

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Please. I had dinner with my parents tonight, whom Faux News has convinced this is the end of the healthcare world. Even though both have regular insurance Medicare supplement, Medicare, Rx Supplement, and advanced directives. How they got through that without being put to sleep by the government is a miracle!

Seriously - which part of this is supposed to be the nightmare 2010 Political Lie of The Year, Government Takeover of Healthcare and "Death Panels"? (other than what is really happening under Governor Jan Brewer today?)

And Obamacare is going to be any better?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

And Obamacare is going to be any better?

What - exactly - do you dislike about Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act? That children can now remain insured on their parents policies until they are 26? That sick children cannot be kicked out of being insured for life due to exceeding a "lifetime cap of benefits" by the time they are eight years old? That your insurance company can't suddenly deny a claim based upon a pre-existing condition?

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

What - exactly - do you dislike about Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act? That children can now remain insured on their parents policies until they are 26? That sick children cannot be kicked out of being insured for life due to exceeding a "lifetime cap of benefits" by the time they are eight years old? That your insurance company can't suddenly deny a claim based upon a pre-existing condition?

There are some good points to this stuff. The point that I am against this bill is why should a unemployed person who isn't looking for work get another free handout. Won't they be covered under this bill? Im hoping it doesn't happen. It won't be fair to the working people who have to support trash like that. I heard that unemployment benefits are now a taxable item.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

There are some good points to this stuff. The point that I am against this bill is why should a unemployed person who isn't looking for work get another free handout. Won't they be covered under this bill?.

Not really any differently than they are today via Medicaid. The bill expands Medicaid availability to those earning up to 133% of the federal poverty level.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Not really any differently than they are today via Medicaid. The bill expands Medicaid availability to those earning up to 133% of the federal poverty level.

What is your view on a worthless unemployed person not looking for a job getting another handout? Do you think it's fair to all of the working people and the unemployed people who are actually trying to find work? Also I am curious what the premiums are going to be. Im just glad I won't be using that worthless insurance.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

What is your view on a worthless unemployed person not looking for a job getting another handout? Do you think it's fair to all of the working people and the unemployed people who are actually trying to find work? Also I am curious what the premiums are going to be. Im just glad I won't be using that worthless insurance.

How about a worthless person stealing our money by collecting a government pension??? Why should the government still be paying pensions when nearly every company has done away with them and switched to 401-K?

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

How about a worthless person stealing our money by collecting a government pension??? Why should the government still be paying pensions when nearly every company has done away with them and switched to 401-K?

Im in agreement with you on that also. It's a bunch of BS that stuff like that happens.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by jms62

How about a worthless person stealing our money by collecting a government pension??? Why should the government still be paying pensions when nearly every company has done away with them and switched to 401-K?

There is something so incredibly rich about this comment and how it went over.

Well done, jms.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

How about a worthless person stealing our money by collecting a government pension??? Why should the government still be paying pensions when nearly every company has done away with them and switched to 401-K?

I earned my pension by giving up 20 years of my life for this country? Maybe this country should go to a draft or make people after high school join the military like they do in other countries. Im sure if there was a draft you would have draft dodgers.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

What is your view on a worthless unemployed person not looking for a job getting another handout?.

Easy, she doesn't believe there is such a thing. Or they are so rare they need to be cared for and protected as any other endangered animal.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Easy, she doesn't believe there is such a thing. Or they are so rare they need to be cared for and protected as any other endangered animal.

At least now unemployed people have to pay taxes on thier unemployment benefits from what I hear.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

What - exactly - do you dislike

Easy, the fact the government is forcing the healthy and fit to pay for the unhealthy and obese disguised as mandatory coverage and subsidization. Next?

[dellinger63]

lol but I'm sure she has an independent Blue Cross policy thru her bizness.

IMO Guide and console her to death now and save a fortune! I just spoke democrat!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...r-sitting.html

[AeWingnut]

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Easy, the fact the government is forcing the healthy and fit to pay for the unhealthy and obese disguised as mandatory coverage and subsidization. Next?

Right now, and for the past several decades, the healthy and fit pay for the unhealthy and obese. This will decrease those costs. GASP!

"Disguised as mandatory coverage and subsidization" that makes no sense. You'll have to use the Dell Detranslator to rephrase what you are trying to say.

I suppose you don't know that there is, specifically and deliberately written into the bill, zero ability to collect any penalty for not purchasing insurance.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I suppose you don't know that there is, specifically and deliberately written into the bill, zero ability to collect any penalty for not purchasing insurance.

Then we're all good. But I think you're wrong as usual.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Then we're all good. But I think you're wrong as usual.

Says the man too lazy, over months, to even read a newspaper article or two and learn the big bullet points of what he's talking about.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Says the man too lazy, over months, to even read a newspaper article or two and learn the big bullet points of what he's talking about.

Says the woman who thinks an American has the same risk of being a terrorist as a Saudi, boarding a plane. You were right once in the last 5 years. Obama does 'get it' just as Carter did.