Rex Ryan

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

OMG, then why aren't you pounding the over?----The end.

thanks for proving my point.

[randallscott35]

Dont use the 20 picks stat though. Remember a lot of those came in only a few games. He had a very good year last year, esp in playoffs.

[gales0678]

joe

i like you am a long suffering jet fan

here is my honest assesment for the 16 games and i am assuming revis will be there all 16


division games - 6 they will go 4 and 2

other afc games - they will go 3-3

nfc games - 3-1

i can see 10-6 and that us with Revis there , so the posted total of 9.5 in vegas with revis up in the air makes sense

i think 10-6 with this schedule will be pretty darn good , if we look at the non afc east games you will see what i mean

of the 10 non afc east games , i only see 2 gimmes
detroit and cleveland

that leaves 8 games with
green bay
minnesota
houston
pitt
baltimore
chicago
denver
cinnanti

if you give them 4-2 in the division plus the 2 over det and clev that gets them to 6-2 - very attainable

now for the other 8 games i can't really see them going more than 4-4

balt on opening night will not be easy

after 3 divison games they go

minnesota
at denver
bye
green bay

that is a tricky 3 game stretch and the denver game is a tricy game because it falls after a tough viking team and a bye week , that in my opinion is an essential game becuase i see them spliting with GBand Minn

the next 2 non afc games are a spilt in my opinion
houston hammered the jets last year , i can see the jets paying them back
but right after that cinncy comes to town in a big time revenge spot and the following week the jets go to NE

that bengal game is in a tough spot on the schedule , they will be amped to pay back houston and then the week the play the bengals , they will be looking ahead to the game in foxboro

just a tough tough spot for the jets , they got 1-1 against cinncy and the texans

pitt and chicago in back to back weeks on the road in dec , with the bear game a day after chritmas will be a spilt at the best in my opinion joe

so to me the key games are balt, denver and cinncy

if they beat the ravens they have a good shot at 11 wins
if they lose to the ravens they still have a shot for 10 wins
if they lose to the ravens and lose to denver they would have to go 3-1 in the 4 games against hou , pitt , cinncy and bears in order to get to 10 wins

the key non afc east games for me a a jet fan for them to make the playoffs are:
ravens
broncos
bengals
steelers

3-1 in these games would be very good for them to do

The Revis holdout is getting real toxic. The longer he's out the more jealous teammates get and the more bitter he gets. If they don't offer a new contract to his liking it could go downhill real fast.

It's not like they're in a cupcake division.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by gales0678

houston hammered the jets last year ,

No they didn't.

NT

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

No they didn't.

NT

you're correct nick

the jets hammered them , i got it backwrads

they will face houston and cinncinnati in back to back weeks in the meadowlands , with a game with the patriots looming the following week

at best i see there is a split , once of those teams will pay back the jets from last year , and the jets in my opinion will only go 1-1 in those 2 key non afc east games

as for the afc east divisional games , they jets just seem to never go 5-1 or 6-0 , i'm sure there are some years when that has happened but i'm sticking with 4-2 against the east and 2-1 against the nfc

the 6 afc games and the bear game that remain will be the key to the season

they will beat cleveland , so that gets them to 7 wins

the 6 games that are left are they keys to the season

balt - could go either way
at denver - tricky spot after the vikings game and a tough place to play

hou / cinncy back to back week , revenge game for houston and double revenge for cinncy - i hope they go 1-1 here

dec road games
at pitt
at chicago day after chrstmas

i just don't see 2-0 in this spot i give them 1-1

so i have them at 9-5 pretty much confident in

thus they would have to go 1-1 against balt and denver to get to 10

2-0 gets them to 11 and 0-2 sends them to 9-7

that's they way i see it , so right off the bat opening night is huge , just huge

and week 6 or game 6 at denver is also a big game as i think they split the pack and viking games

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

you're correct nick

the jets hammered them , i got it backwrads

they will face houston and cinncinnati in back to back weeks in the meadowlands , with a game with the patriots looming the following week

at best i see there is a split , once of those teams will pay back the jets from last year , and the jets in my opinion will only go 1-1 in those 2 key non afc east games

as for the afc east divisional games , they jets just seem to never go 5-1 or 6-0 , i'm sure there are some years when that has happened but i'm sticking with 4-2 against the east and 2-1 against the nfc

the 6 afc games and the bear game that remain will be the key to the season

they will beat cleveland , so that gets them to 7 wins

the 6 games that are left are they keys to the season

balt - could go either way
at denver - tricky spot after the vikings game and a tough place to play

hou / cinncy back to back week , revenge game for houston and double revenge for cinncy - i hope they go 1-1 here

dec road games
at pitt
at chicago day after chrstmas

i just don't see 2-0 in this spot i give them 1-1

so i have them at 9-5 pretty much confident in

thus they would have to go 1-1 against balt and denver to get to 10

2-0 gets them to 11 and 0-2 sends them to 9-7

that's they way i see it , so right off the bat opening night is huge , just huge

and week 6 or game 6 at denver is also a big game as i think they split the pack and viking games

Revenge/Smevenge this isn't college, there is no reason they shouldn't win both of these games, especially at home.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Revenge/Smevenge this isn't college, there is no reason they shouldn't win both of these games, especially at home.

yeah there is a better chance of the split occuring because Cincy and Housten are actually legit good teams.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Revenge/Smevenge this isn't college, there is no reason they shouldn't win both of these games, especially at home.

on paper the jets are better but not by a large amount

these are 2 teams that aren't dogs like cleveland matt

and i have seen time and time again the jets lay eggs at home against teams that are good but that they should beat

houston and cinncy will both be out for blood in these spots , i don't think the jets bring the "a" gamr to both of these games and i can eaisly see 1-1 here

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

yeah there is a better chance of the split occuring because Cincy and Housten are actually legit good teams.

Houston has been the trendy pick for the last couple of years and they continue to s.hit the bed every year. Personally, Cincy showed that they can't play smashmouth football when the Jets rolled over them in consecutive weeks last season. If I was a Jets fan, they don't impress/worry me at all.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

on paper the jets are better but not by a large amount

these are 2 teams that aren't dogs like cleveland matt

and i have seen time and time again the jets lay eggs at home against teams that are good but that they should beat
houston and cinncy will both be out for blood in these spots , i don't think the jets bring the "a" gamr to both of these games and i can eaisly see 1-1 here

As painful as it is for me to say this, these aren't the same old Jets.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Houston has been the trendy pick for the last couple of years and they continue to s.hit the bed every year. Personally, Cincy showed that they can't play smashmouth football when the Jets rolled over them in consecutive weeks last season. If I was a Jets fan, they don't impress/worry me at all.

and there in lies the problem as soon as we jets fans think these games aren't problems , they become problems

i will be very suprised if they win both of those games

houston is capable on any week of beating an team in the nfl

cinncinnati has this game circled on the schedule big time

i don't think the jets bring the intensity needed to match these teams in both games , they might have it for 1 but not both

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

As painful as it is for me to say this, these aren't the same old Jets.

to some extent you are right but to some extent you are not

the got into the playoffs last year because teams layed down

if the colts needed the game , there is no run to the afc championship game

Originally Posted by MaTH716

As painful as it is for me to say this, these aren't the same old Jets.

1 year with a solid playoff run makes it all better?

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

1 year with a solid playoff run makes it all better?

I just think that Sanchez will be much better with a season under his belt. He really could have used Brunell last year to lean on. But at least he's a Vet that will be able to hold his hand if he should hit stormy waters again this year. Also I think Santonio Holmes is a huge upgrade at the position and if they could get Edwards to hold on to the ball a few times they could really have a very dangerous air attack. Not sure about the running game, Greene showed late that he could be a good back. But who knows how he will take the punishment of an entire season. I do think Tomlinson does have something left in the tank, but all that being said Thomas Jones will be missed. The guy was a warrior and a respected clubhouse guy.

Defensively I would think that they are going to be strong again, that is as long as they stay healthy. You would think that Revis will eventually show up. Not sure when, but most likely by the opener.

I do think Nick Folk could lose them a game or two this year. Jay Feeley was excellent for them last season and Folk is definitely a downtick, so it wouldn't suprise me if someone else was kicking for them late in the season.

By no means do I think they are the 72 Dolphins, but I could see them being 11-5 during the regular season. They really benefit by having the Vikings and Packers having to come to the Swamp.

Once again alot of their success hinges on Sanchez moving forward.

[Crown@club]

Besides the choking on Field Goals.
Anyone remember who the DB was that missed the tackle that led Shonne Greene to the clinching TD in the SD game?

Antonio Cromartie

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

yeah there is a better chance of the split occuring because Cincy and Housten are actually legit good teams.

cincy went 4-6 outside division last year. they were a mirage.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Besides the choking on Field Goals.
Anyone remember who the DB was that missed the tackle that led Shonne Greene to the clinching TD in the SD game?

Antonio Cromartie

Correct, that nullifies all of the freakish talent he has and the fact that he was considered a top 10 CB before getting injured/splitting from the team.

Also, analyzing an NFL schedule before the season starts is one of the dumbest, most useless things one can do.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Correct, that nullifies all of the freakish talent he has and the fact that he was considered a top 10 CB before getting injured/splitting from the team.

Also, analyzing an NFL schedule before the season starts is one of the dumbest, most useless things one can do.

I don't agree with that at all. There are always a couple teams that improve and a couple that sulk and some that basically get screwed by injuries, but a team's schedule is very very important, and analyzing it should paint a decent enough picture for the real fans that understand how it all comes together.

Look at the Bears for example, they have zero shot to be any good this year and some has to do with their scheduling.

For starters.....
Week 2: At Dallas
Week 3: Green Bay
Week 4: At Giants

Then their last 8 games are
Week 10: Minnesota
Week 11: @ Miami
Week 12: Philly
Week 13: @ Detroit
Week 14: New England
Week 15: @ Minnesota
Week 16: Jets
Week 17: @ Green Bay

Where is the cupcake game there? Its brutal.

Next year, they will be a very good team after finishing 6-10 this year, and getting a cupcake schedule because of 'last years' finish.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scav

I don't agree with that at all. There are always a couple teams that improve and a couple that sulk and some that basically get screwed by injuries, but a team's schedule is very very important, and analyzing it should paint a decent enough picture for the real fans that understand how it all comes together.

Look at the Bears for example, they have zero shot to be any good this year and some has to do with their scheduling.

For starters.....
Week 2: At Dallas
Week 3: Green Bay
Week 4: At Giants

Then their last 8 games are
Week 10: Minnesota
Week 11: @ Miami
Week 12: Philly
Week 13: @ Detroit
Week 14: New England
Week 15: @ Minnesota
Week 16: Jets
Week 17: @ Green Bay

Where is the cupcake game there? Its brutal.

Next year, they will be a very good team after finishing 6-10 this year, and getting a cupcake schedule because of 'last years' finish.

Where is the cupcake game? Who the hell knows? Predicting who's going to be good in the NFL is like throwing darts, in the dark, at a fly. It's fun to try to mark off wins and losses before the season, but nine times out of ten those predictions look completely retarded by Week 8.