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Old 07-13-2010, 05:18 PM
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We don't know who will be in the field yet, but supposing the field turns up solid, I'm sure there will be better bets.
Why is it about betting, I spent an hour last night discussing why I think Paddy O' Prado is a toss out this weekend, I am the first one to try to beat the chalk, but Quality Road is working on a resume this year and running speed figures that might make him go down as an all time great. I think he is that good, and I dont think Rail Trip going to Dutrow scares anyone in the Todd Barn.
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Old 07-13-2010, 05:28 PM
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Why is it about betting, I spent an hour last night discussing why I think Paddy O' Prado is a toss out this weekend, I am the first one to try to beat the chalk, but Quality Road is working on a resume this year and running speed figures that might make him go down as an all time great. I think he is that good, and I dont think Rail Trip going to Dutrow scares anyone in the Todd Barn.
he doesn't run enough to be an all-time great. i don't think when people toss that phrase around that they realize exactly what category that puts a horse.
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Old 07-13-2010, 05:30 PM
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he doesn't run enough to be an all-time great. i don't think when people toss that phrase around that they realize exactly what category that puts a horse.
Danzig I think the correct way to put it would be he has not run enough yet. If Quality Road runs in and wins the races they are pointing him to, I dont think it will be a debate at that point. Is that fair?
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Old 07-13-2010, 05:34 PM
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Danzig I think the correct way to put it would be he has not run enough yet. If Quality Road runs in and wins the races they are pointing him to, I dont think it will be a debate at that point. Is that fair?

no

an all time great is a horse that transcends time, generations, ages. a horse other horses get compared to. he won't be that.

man o war, yes. citation, native dancer, secretariat, dr fager, the bid, slew, affirmed. those are all time greats. hell, i wouldn't put him with a holy bull or skip away, tiznow...i'd take congaree over him at this point. if he wins the classic, i'd compare him to curlin-that doesn't make him an all time great.
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Old 07-13-2010, 05:37 PM
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an all time great is a horse that transcends time, generations, ages. a horse other horses get compared to. he won't be that.

man o war, yes. citation, native dancer, secretariat, dr fager, the bid, slew, affirmed. those are all time greats. hell, i wouldn't put him with a holy bull or skip away, tiznow...i'd take congaree over him at this point. if he wins the classic, i'd compare him to curlin-that doesn't make him an all time great.
Congaree ran a really good race in the Classic, he and Medaglia D'oro really set it up for Pleasantly Perfect a horse that obviously had an affinity for 1.25 M.
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Old 07-13-2010, 05:41 PM
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Congaree ran a really good race in the Classic, he and Medaglia D'oro really set it up for Pleasantly Perfect a horse that obviously had an affinity for 1.25 M.
always liked congaree. another horse who wasn't at his best at 10f, but tried his heart out. his big cap loss to milwaukee brew was one of his best efforts.
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Old 07-13-2010, 06:05 PM
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always liked congaree. another horse who wasn't at his best at 10f, but tried his heart out. his big cap loss to milwaukee brew was one of his best efforts.
Interesting you mention Milwaukee Brew, Frankel's other runner. I was waiting all year to put a bet on him in the Classic, unfortunately he was hurt going into the race. He really liked SA and it would have been interesting to see how he would have done given how the race came off.
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Old 07-13-2010, 05:29 PM
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Why is it about betting, I spent an hour last night discussing why I think Paddy O' Prado is a toss out this weekend, I am the first one to try to beat the chalk, but Quality Road is working on a resume this year and running speed figures that might make him go down as an all time great. I think he is that good, and I dont think Rail Trip going to Dutrow scares anyone in the Todd Barn.
I hate to use Medaglia D'oro as an example because he was better than what Quality Road has shown thus far shown, many will agree he was better at 9 furlongs than 10 and I think the same holds true for QR. Liking a horse at 9 doesn't necessarily mean they will win the Classic at 1 1/4.
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