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Old 08-17-2015, 03:34 PM
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Not sure what thats got to do with abortion, which is legal.
Well if abortion is murder that is incorrectly categorized by current law...
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Old 08-17-2015, 03:36 PM
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Here's another wrinkle for you to think about:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er-wanted.html

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EXCLUSIVE: Parents sue hospital for 'psychological trauma' of failed abortion and cost of bringing up daughter, now 14 - who SUPPORTS their £700,000 claim despite knowing she was never wanted
Elisa Bellandi, now 14, survived an abortion when her mother fell pregnant with her accidentally when aged 43
Parents, from Rimini, Italy, are suing the hospital that carried out the procedure for £700,000 for the girl's maintenance
Her father Giuseppe said: 'The doctors brought her into the world. They should provide for her study and indispensable needs until she is 18'
Elisa has always known she was a 'mistake' and supports her parents
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Old 08-17-2015, 05:28 PM
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Here's another wrinkle for you to think about:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er-wanted.html

Excerpt: (international law)

EXCLUSIVE: Parents sue hospital for 'psychological trauma' of failed abortion and cost of bringing up daughter, now 14 - who SUPPORTS their £700,000 claim despite knowing she was never wanted
Elisa Bellandi, now 14, survived an abortion when her mother fell pregnant with her accidentally when aged 43
Parents, from Rimini, Italy, are suing the hospital that carried out the procedure for £700,000 for the girl's maintenance
Her father Giuseppe said: 'The doctors brought her into the world. They should provide for her study and indispensable needs until she is 18'
Elisa has always known she was a 'mistake' and supports her parents
why do i need to think about this?
what about the catholic hospital in colorado whose lawyers argued that fetuses aren't persons, thus the suit against them for 'killing' twins shouldn't go forward-and they won. that, from a religion who claims life begins at conception...unless of course they are facing payout for wrongful death. their mother was 7 months along, had a heart attack. she and the twins she was carrying died.
yeah, they argue one thing...but then go against that very teaching, cuz money.
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why do i need to think about this?
what about the catholic hospital in colorado whose lawyers argued that fetuses aren't persons, thus the suit against them for 'killing' twins shouldn't go forward-and they won. that, from a religion who claims life begins at conception...unless of course they are facing payout for wrongful death. their mother was 7 months along, had a heart attack. she and the twins she was carrying died.
yeah, they argue one thing...but then go against that very teaching, cuz money.
I had not heard of that Colorado case, and I agree that's hypocritical, inconsistent and wrong.
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/26/us/col...fetus-lawsuit/

Colorado supreme court refused to hear the case so the ruling stood. The husband declared bankruptcy rather than pay the legal bills for the hospital. As you can see, they offered to drop the counter suit if he didn't appeal..
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And we all know the Hippocratic oath, first do no harm to the patient.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lori-f...b_5037035.html
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/cathol...ays-2D11674429

A woman died in ireland due to such 'care'. It is unconscionable that hospitals know full well a pregnancy is doomed, but still follow religious protocol over medical.
http://blog.ansirh.org/2013/02/pregn...lic-hospitals/

Note the lack of medical training for the religious person who tells docotrs what to do.
But, when you notice infection, cmon back. Obscene.
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/26/us/col...fetus-lawsuit/

Colorado supreme court refused to hear the case so the ruling stood. The husband declared bankruptcy rather than pay the legal bills for the hospital. As you can see, they offered to drop the counter suit if he didn't appeal..
Proving that when push comes to shove, the only real god people worship is Mammon.

Obviously, the courts were legally correct to toss out that charge, but I find it hilarious and unsurprising that the hospital were happy to embrace the law when it helped them, while denying legal procedures to female patients. (And male, for that matter, since they also won't do vasectomies)
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http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/planned-p...s-were-altered

According to a report compiled by a group Planned Parenthood hired, Fusion GPS, a forensic video expert found that the Center for Medical Progress’s “full footage videos contained numerous intentional post-production edits.” Based on the timestamps on the longer videos alone, roughly 30 minutes are missing from the videos recorded in Texas and Colorado. The research firm also found that the transcripts provided by the Center for Medical Progress are inaccurate as judged against a transcript made by an independent service. “All four transcripts by CMP contain substantive omissions, and the Texas transcript appears to be grossly edited,” the Fusion GPS report says.

and further along:

“Despite Mr. Daleiden’s three-year effort to entrap Planned Parenthood, he failed to succeed in convincing even a single affiliate to enter into a procurement contract with his fake company,” Richards wrote, referring to David Daleiden, the Center for Medical Progress’s ringleader. In the case of one video filmed in Colorado, Richards said, the doctor “repeatedly told the Biomax representative that legal counsel would have to review any contract with Biomax. These references were consistently deleted from the video excerpt Mr. Daleiden released. Indeed, legal counsel did in fact review the proposed Biomax contract and objected to its terms because they did not comply with federal law.”
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Well if abortion is murder that is incorrectly categorized by current law...
if my aunt had an outie she'd be my uncle. it's not murder, even tho a few people think it should be.
i'm sure it hurts you to know that more people than ever support roe/wade, and want it to remain as is.

and check this out, to see about your fellow conservatives and abortion...cause actions speak louder than words:

http://www.prochoiceactionnetwork-ca...ti-tales.shtml
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