Another gop govt shutdown?!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Do you think that makes any sense?

By "that" I mean the idea that the status of the baby ONLY depends on whether the mother wanted it or not?

Two mothers, one named Smith, one named Jones, suffer the same crime and cease to be pregnant at the same point in gestation of the baby. Smith wanted her baby and so charges for an additional murder are brought upon her assailant. But Jones was on her way to an abortion clinic anyway so no additional charges are made.

One was a murdered human being and the other a discard blob of tissue.

That is INSANE.

One, no. The pa decides charges, not the victim.
two, abortion is specifically NOT covered by fetal laws.
three, i didnt write the crap. But yes, they want to charge folks with as much as possible....and then therre were victims of assualt who lost their almost due now dead infant,, and wanted recourse in the courts.
as for when life befins, go read roe. It explains how they nade ttheir decision and whos rights matter when in regards to abortion.

Ever watch the investigative dramas about police work?

Hahahahahshahahah.
well, that explains a lot. You think tv is reality?! Lol. Thats what attorneys complain about at trial now. Everyone expects csi stuff....its not real. Geez

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

One, no. The pa decides charges, not the victim.
two, abortion is specifically NOT covered by fetal laws.
three, i didnt write the crap. But yes, they want to charge folks with as much as possible....and then therre were victims of assualt who lost their almost due now dead infant,, and wanted recourse in the courts.
as for when life befins, go read roe. It explains how they nade ttheir decision and whos rights matter when in regards to abortion.

Ever watch the investigative dramas about police work?

Hahahahahshahahah.
well, that explains a lot. You think tv is reality?! Lol. Thats what attorneys complain about at trial now. Everyone expects csi stuff....its not real. Geez

No of course TV dramas are not reality - but I was trying to use as broad an example as possible to say that no matter the motivations for committing a crime, the crime must be stopped, the perpetrator apprehended, tried, and then either sentenced or released.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

No of course TV dramas are not reality - but I was trying to use as broad an example as possible to say that no matter the motivations for committing a crime, the crime must be stopped, the perpetrator apprehended, tried, and then either sentenced or released.

Not sure what thats got to do with abortion, which is legal.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Not sure what thats got to do with abortion, which is legal.

Well if abortion is murder that is incorrectly categorized by current law...

[joeydb]

Here's another wrinkle for you to think about:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er-wanted.html

Excerpt: (international law)

EXCLUSIVE: Parents sue hospital for 'psychological trauma' of failed abortion and cost of bringing up daughter, now 14 - who SUPPORTS their £700,000 claim despite knowing she was never wanted
Elisa Bellandi, now 14, survived an abortion when her mother fell pregnant with her accidentally when aged 43
Parents, from Rimini, Italy, are suing the hospital that carried out the procedure for £700,000 for the girl's maintenance
Her father Giuseppe said: 'The doctors brought her into the world. They should provide for her study and indispensable needs until she is 18'
Elisa has always known she was a 'mistake' and supports her parents

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Here's another wrinkle for you to think about:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...er-wanted.html

Excerpt: (international law)

EXCLUSIVE: Parents sue hospital for 'psychological trauma' of failed abortion and cost of bringing up daughter, now 14 - who SUPPORTS their £700,000 claim despite knowing she was never wanted
Elisa Bellandi, now 14, survived an abortion when her mother fell pregnant with her accidentally when aged 43
Parents, from Rimini, Italy, are suing the hospital that carried out the procedure for £700,000 for the girl's maintenance
Her father Giuseppe said: 'The doctors brought her into the world. They should provide for her study and indispensable needs until she is 18'
Elisa has always known she was a 'mistake' and supports her parents

why do i need to think about this?
what about the catholic hospital in colorado whose lawyers argued that fetuses aren't persons, thus the suit against them for 'killing' twins shouldn't go forward-and they won. that, from a religion who claims life begins at conception...unless of course they are facing payout for wrongful death. their mother was 7 months along, had a heart attack. she and the twins she was carrying died.
yeah, they argue one thing...but then go against that very teaching, cuz money.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

why do i need to think about this?
what about the catholic hospital in colorado whose lawyers argued that fetuses aren't persons, thus the suit against them for 'killing' twins shouldn't go forward-and they won. that, from a religion who claims life begins at conception...unless of course they are facing payout for wrongful death. their mother was 7 months along, had a heart attack. she and the twins she was carrying died.
yeah, they argue one thing...but then go against that very teaching, cuz money.

I had not heard of that Colorado case, and I agree that's hypocritical, inconsistent and wrong.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Well if abortion is murder that is incorrectly categorized by current law...

if my aunt had an outie she'd be my uncle. it's not murder, even tho a few people think it should be.
i'm sure it hurts you to know that more people than ever support roe/wade, and want it to remain as is.

and check this out, to see about your fellow conservatives and abortion...cause actions speak louder than words:

http://www.prochoiceactionnetwork-ca...ti-tales.shtml

[jms62]

Originally Posted by joeydb

No of course TV dramas are not reality - but I was trying to use as broad an example as possible to say that no matter the motivations for committing a crime, the crime must be stopped, the perpetrator apprehended, tried, and then either sentenced or released.

Thanks for your continued participation on this long decided subject.