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Old 09-14-2012, 08:00 AM
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I am not PD. if you disagree with my views feel free to debate it. Sugessting that I am insulting you under a different name is absurd.
Just so I'm clear, this is the story you are going with.

You're not thepaindispenser despite his political views being identical to yours. You're not thepaindispenser despite your posting styles being identical. You introduced this guy to the board and after his third post you welcomed him, while pretending you didn't know who he was, but you're not him.

When I asked him a question yesterday and you responded and then he did a few minutes later, that was just a coincidence? And despite this guy being here for a little over a month he insults people by telling them he's waiting to hear something intelligent from them? But you're not him?

I call bullshit. And frankly it's kind of embarrassing to watch you try and weasel your way out if it. Own it and let's move forward tough guy.
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:49 AM
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Just so I'm clear, this is the story you are going with.

I call bullshit. And frankly it's kind of embarrassing to watch you try and weasel your way out if it. Own it and let's move forward tough guy.
Nothing personal, but perhaps you should put your money where your mouth is regarding accusing Nick having PD as a second log in... I am fairly certain he would take that action.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:23 AM
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Nothing personal, but perhaps you should put your money where your mouth is regarding accusing Nick having PD as a second log in... I am fairly certain he would take that action.
Finally an unbiased perspective.

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Old 09-14-2012, 09:55 AM
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Just so I'm clear, this is the story you are going with.

You're not thepaindispenser despite his political views being identical to yours. You're not thepaindispenser despite your posting styles being identical. You introduced this guy to the board and after his third post you welcomed him, while pretending you didn't know who he was, but you're not him.

When I asked him a question yesterday and you responded and then he did a few minutes later, that was just a coincidence? And despite this guy being here for a little over a month he insults people by telling them he's waiting to hear something intelligent from them? But you're not him?

I call bullshit. And frankly it's kind of embarrassing to watch you try and weasel your way out if it. Own it and let's move forward tough guy.
Let me set the record straight here. First of all, I have never had a problem with you and if I did I would have addressed it with you.

Second of all, I am not PD. Over drinks and a conversation regarding politics, which obviously PD and I have similar views, I showed him the nonsense and bullying tactics that Riot uses here. PD decided to sign up and join as a member here himself on his own, which I see no problem with someone doing and expressing their opinions against what he obviously thought was nonsense. I saw no obligation to reveal that I know him once he told me that it was him that signed up as PD, if I am wrong on that end, fine. Now you know that I know him, but his views are his own and he is a big boy and can defend them himself. In fact, he is smarter than I.

I see nothing that I have to weasel out of Hoss. The more people that come to the website, the better for the game, IMO, regardless of whether they feel they have more knowledge on horses or politics. If you don't like the politics that PD and/or I express, fine, debate it. But I certainly feel that this section has been wrestled from Riot's control and freed up for actual debate (which actually has occurred very nicely the last few days without Riot's typical nasty tactics), which I have expressed several times that is what my goal in fighting Riot is.

If you wanted to know whether I was using a second ID, all you had to do is ask and I would have told you exactly what I am saying now, which is that it is simply not true. pmac only says that because he knows who PD is and that it is not me. If you have a problem with me, fine, address it with me and I will be happy to respond.
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:02 AM
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Let me set the record straight here. First of all, I have never had a problem with you and if I did I would have addressed it with you.

Second of all, I am not PD. Over drinks and a conversation regarding politics, which obviously PD and I have similar views, I showed him the nonsense and bullying tactics that Riot uses here. PD decided to sign up and join as a member here himself on his own, which I see no problem with someone doing and expressing their opinions against what he obviously thought was nonsense. I saw no obligation to reveal that I know him once he told me that it was him that signed up as PD, if I am wrong on that end, fine. Now you know that I know him, but his views are his own and he is a big boy and can defend them himself. In fact, he is smarter than I.

I see nothing that I have to weasel out of Hoss. The more people that come to the website, the better for the game, IMO, regardless of whether they feel they have more knowledge on horses or politics. If you don't like the politics that PD and/or I express, fine, debate it. But I certainly feel that this section has been wrestled from Riot's control and freed up for actual debate (which actually has occurred very nicely the last few days without Riot's typical nasty tactics), which I have expressed several times that is what my goal in fighting Riot is.

If you wanted to know whether I was using a second ID, all you had to do is ask and I would have told you exactly what I am saying now, which is that it is simply not true. pmac only says that because he knows who PD is and that it is not me. If you have a problem with me, fine, address it with me and I will be happy to respond.


bring all the anti-Riots on board as you like!
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:11 AM
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bring all the anti-Riots on board as you like!
Thank you, Lori. I believe that PD brings an interesting knowledge and perspective to the very important issues facing this country today, I cannot remember a time in my lifetime where these issues have been more important to this country. Whether one agrees or disagrees with either I or PD, I believe the issues are worthy of debate.

Now that Riot and Big Run both have not been involved here for several days, I wonder if I should start accusing Riot of being Big Run?
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:07 AM
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Thank you, Lori. I believe that PD brings an interesting knowledge and perspective to the very important issues facing this country today,
I laughed hysterically The only thing your Sockpuppet bring to the table is regurgitating Red State and Breitbart hate conspiracy crap.

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Now that Riot and Big Run both have not been involved here for several days, I wonder if I should start accusing Riot of being Big Run?
I've been beyond busy at the sale, but thanks for missing me.

As the Romney campaign has imploded into complete failure, and the President is now virtually guaranteed re-election (thank goodness), reading the mindless, immature Anti-Obama hate screeds here from you and Sockpuppet isn't high on my list, thanks

We're working on kicking the Do Nothing Tea Party out of downticket races, and giving POTUS a Dem-Independent House that won't work against America, to go with the Presidency and the Senate.

See you after the sale for the debates
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:11 AM
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I laughed hysterically The only thing your Sockpuppet bring to the table is regurgitating Red State and Breitbart hate conspiracy crap.



I've been beyond busy at the sale, but thanks for missing me.

As the Romney campaign has imploded into complete failure, and the President is now virtually guaranteed re-election (thank goodness), reading the mindless, immature Anti-Obama hate screeds here from you and Sockpuppet isn't high on my list, thanks

We're working on kicking the Do Nothing Tea Party out of downticket races, and giving POTUS a Dem-Independent House that won't work against America, to go with the Presidency and the Senate.

See you after the sale for the debates
So the few days of quiet, debates without insults and common sense are over. Where has your sockpuppet been these last few days? At the sale too?
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:12 AM
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So the few days of quiet, debates without insults and common sense are over. Where has your sockpuppet been these last few days? At the sale too?
Yes, here you go again with your Riot-stalking attacks (like your multiple comments trolling in this thread). So obvious that even those that don't post regularly down here noticed and called you out on it.

Your constant attention to me, and multiple mentions of me in my absence, show a derangement that's rather sick, don't you agree?

Good luck with your Obama Derangement Syndrome, troll.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:09 AM
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Thank you, Lori. I believe that PD brings an interesting knowledge and perspective to the very important issues facing this country today, I cannot remember a time in my lifetime where these issues have been more important to this country. Whether one agrees or disagrees with either I or PD, I believe the issues are worthy of debate.

Now that Riot and Big Run both have not been involved here for several days, I wonder if I should start accusing Riot of being Big Run?
you are obviously riot. no sooner did you mention her then she showed up.


thanks a lot.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:11 AM
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you are obviously riot. no sooner did you mention her then she showed up.


thanks a lot.
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:55 AM
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Meh so thepezdispenser is intelligent?

Sure. Vote Romneh things will get better!!

DERP!!
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:10 AM
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Let me set the record straight here. First of all, I have never had a problem with you and if I did I would have addressed it with you.

Second of all, I am not PD. Over drinks and a conversation regarding politics, which obviously PD and I have similar views, I showed him the nonsense and bullying tactics that Riot uses here. PD decided to sign up and join as a member here himself on his own, which I see no problem with someone doing and expressing their opinions against what he obviously thought was nonsense. I saw no obligation to reveal that I know him once he told me that it was him that signed up as PD, if I am wrong on that end, fine. Now you know that I know him, but his views are his own and he is a big boy and can defend them himself. In fact, he is smarter than I.

I see nothing that I have to weasel out of Hoss. The more people that come to the website, the better for the game, IMO, regardless of whether they feel they have more knowledge on horses or politics. If you don't like the politics that PD and/or I express, fine, debate it. But I certainly feel that this section has been wrestled from Riot's control and freed up for actual debate (which actually has occurred very nicely the last few days without Riot's typical nasty tactics), which I have expressed several times that is what my goal in fighting Riot is.

If you wanted to know whether I was using a second ID, all you had to do is ask and I would have told you exactly what I am saying now, which is that it is simply not true. pmac only says that because he knows who PD is and that it is not me. If you have a problem with me, fine, address it with me and I will be happy to respond.
Sorry...not buying it.

I don't really have any issue with you either, but think it's kind of chicken sh.it to take swipes at people from another name. That's about it.

You say it's not you...I disagree and we'll just agree to disagree. But I think it's about time I get some of my "friends" to sign up here. Really liven this place up.
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:15 AM
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Sorry...not buying it.

I don't really have any issue with you either, but think it's kind of chicken sh.it to take swipes at people from another name. That's about it.

You say it's not you...I disagree and we'll just agree to disagree. But I think it's about time I get some of my "friends" to sign up here. Really liven this place up.
Hoss, feel free to check with Steve, Joey or Nick, I think they have ways of telling if the same person is using two ID's. I can promise you 100% that I am not PD. I am not sure what more I can do to convince you of that.

Frankly, I have always found you to be a top shelf handicapper and a very intelligent person. I have no issue with you whatsoever other than you would really think that I would be stupid enough to do that. I hope that deep down that you really know that it not the case.

Bring anyone you want, as far as I am concerned, the more people who debate the issues, the better. I think I have a pretty good track record here of being able to defend myself, I don't need anyone to do it for me like Alabama Stakes. I see no harm in showing the website to others and if they choose to join and express their views, all the better. Frankly, I think the place has been livened up since PD has posted here.
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:31 AM
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You don't really want me to check with the mods, do you?
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:40 AM
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You don't really want me to check with the mods, do you?
Yes, I do. I have nothing to hide. PD is my younger brother Tom and a very intelligent person and I can assure you he signed up on his own and expresses his own views and can handle debating you or anyone else on the issues facing our country today.

There is no conspiracy here. The fact that he signed up here seems to be causing me unneccessary trouble, but he has a right to express his views. Pmac is my brother in law, we all enjoy horse racing even though Tom does not know as much about horse racing today as he did in the past.

All anyone had to do was ask me and I would have said that. I don't see why I had any obligation to go out and post "hey PD is my brother Tom." I am also friends with a number of people here who sometimes agree with me, but don't see that I have to say, hey, that is my buddy. If I am wrong on that, fine. But I am not posting under two different ID's.
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