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Old 05-21-2012, 11:28 PM
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Default Walker declares his loss due to voter fraud (pre-emptively)

Walker declares that if he loses his election, it will be due to massive and substantial one-sided voter fraud and Democratics cheating.

His allegation, of course, is completely disproven by ... well, facts.

But this is Scotty Walker. Facts don't matter.
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/20...wisconsin.html


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Walker said: "I’ve always thought in this state, close elections, presidential elections, it means you probably have to win with at least 53 percent of the vote to account for fraud. One or two points, potentially."

That’s enough to change the outcome of the election. “Absolutely. I mean there’s no question why they went to court and fought [to undo] voter ID.”
There might be some question. The voter fraud issue was investigated in Wisconsin fairly recently, in the form of an Election Fraud Task Force and a deep dive into 2008's vote results.

The yearlong investigation charged 20 people -- this in an election with around 3 million ballots.

For fraud to equal "one or two points" in that election, you'd have needed 30,000-60,000 phony ballots.

The proven fraud actually amounted to 0.0007 percent of all votes.

The people who oppose voter ID laws say they're doing it to rescue the votes of poor or elderly people who lack current IDs. Sure, yes, this would probably be the cover story they'd use if they were trying to make life easier for criminals. But perhaps they're not! It's a possibility Walker rules out.
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:43 AM
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Walker declares that if he loses his election, it will be due to massive and substantial one-sided voter fraud and Democratics cheating.

His allegation, of course, is completely disproven by ... well, facts.

But this is Scotty Walker. Facts don't matter.
Interesting again that when you are supplied with facts that you believe work in your or the democrats favor they are the gospel, but when the facts work against you they are made up.

I noticed you skirted the whole Tom Barrett not showing up for the Ceremony for the fallen police officers in the City of Milwaukee when he was supposed to give a speach. Luckily someone with integrity and caring was there to step in and spend time with those families. When Barrett was asked the next day where he was he said " I don't remember I will have to check my schedule and get back to you". Well if it was so important that he couldn't be there to help support those officers that gave their lives in his City you would think he would have known at least where he was. Amazing that all other politicians found time to be there, but Barrett did not. Oh yeah Barrett was campaigning with some union members. Not a smart campaign move for Tommy

Obama and the dems are distancing themselves from Barrett. Campaign is crumbling and Barrett is trying desparately to hold on to what he has left. The only thing he has is the "John Doe" investigation, which has been addressed already numerous times. Good luck in 2 weeks
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Old 05-22-2012, 05:13 PM
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Interesting again that when you are supplied with facts that you believe work in your or the democrats favor they are the gospel, but when the facts work against you they are made up.
Wisconsin only has magical "job gains" when using a unique and individualized methodology to calculate, outside the normal and outside of what every single state in the country, including Wisconsin, use normally.

The Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics jobless numbers are the gold standard.

Except when Scott Walker doesn't like them showing the worse job loss in the country in Wisconsin under his watch

Did you want to stick to ad hominem?

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I noticed you skirted the whole Tom Barrett not showing up for the Ceremony for the fallen police officers in the City of Milwaukee when he was supposed to give a speach.
Didn't know I was supposed to address it here. Why don't you?

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Obama and the dems are distancing themselves from Barrett. Campaign is crumbling and Barrett is trying desparately to hold on to what he has left. The only thing he has is the "John Doe" investigation, which has been addressed already numerous times. Good luck in 2 weeks
Obama will probably be in Wisconsin in the next two weeks. The head of the DNC will be there for sure. So not sure what you are thinking regarding "distancing". It's rather the opposite.

Good luck to you, too! I hope the turnout is legendary, thus truly represents the will of the people of Wisconsin.
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...n-bid-to-save/
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Old 05-23-2012, 07:38 AM
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'Uncommitted' Gives Obama a Run in Kentucky

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UPDATE: With 99.8 percent reporting, Barack Obama has 119,245 votes, while 'Uncommitted' has 86,789 votes. That is, Obama has 57.9 percent of the vote, while 'Uncommitted' has 42.1 percent
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ky_645774.html

Haha!! Love my state.
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Old 05-23-2012, 01:53 PM
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'Uncommitted' Gives Obama a Run in Kentucky



http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ky_645774.html

Haha!! Love my state.
I took a Republican ballot - gotta vote against the crazy Tea Bagger loons. How many votes did Mittens get in Kentucky?

Barack Obama 119,245
Uncommitted Dem 86,789
Total Dem votes: 206, 034

Romney 107,362
Paul 20,117 votes
Rick Santorum 14,230
Newt Gingrich 9,459
Uncommitted Repub 9,428
Total GOP votes: 160,596
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:42 PM
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"My idol got more votes. So that makes it totally not embarrassing. This country is going to be in fine shape."

You're just shockingly dumb.
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The Fat Lady is clearing her voice.....


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...n-bid-to-save/
Not ready to underestimate the dems yet. They have buses running in the city of milwaukee getting people to the polling place. There is early voting going on and the dems are doing their best to get out the vote. It will be closer than it should be.
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Obama will probably be in Wisconsin in the next two weeks. The head of the DNC will be there for sure. So not sure what you are thinking regarding "distancing". It's rather the opposite.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:48 PM
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Default Scott Walker caught lying to Congress - given chance to avoid perjury charges

The Congressional House Oversight Committee has observed that Scott Walker's testimony doesn't match his video record.

He has until 4 days before the election to contact Congress, justify or change his official testimony or risk Congressional perjury charges.

The Walker-Barrett debate will be televised tonight on C-Span. Walker will certainly be asked about this.

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Committee Democrats Press Governor Walker for Explanation of Videotape that Conflicts with His Testimony

Washington, DC (May 25, 2012)—Today, Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, Ranking Member of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, and Committee Members Gerald Connolly and Chris Murphy sent a letter to Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker seeking answers to three simple questions about his 2011 testimony before the Committee in light of a new videotape that appears to contradict his statements.

Despite testifying under oath that he never “had a conversation with respect to [his] actions in Wisconsin and using them to punish members of the opposition party and their donor base,” a newly uncovered video taken three months earlier shows Walker explaining to one of his biggest financial donors that he plans to use a “divide and conquer” strategy against public sector workers in order to turn Wisconsin into a “completely red state.”

Today’s letter follows a previous letter the Members sent to Chairman Issa requesting that he ask Walker to explain his testimony before the Committee.

http://democrats.oversight.house.gov...ases&Itemid=49
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Old 05-25-2012, 06:00 PM
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Default House Committee letter to Walker asking about his inconsistencies

May 25, 2012

The Honorable Scott Walker
Office of the Governor
115 East State Capitol
Madison, WI 53702

Dear Governor Walker:

On May 21, 2012, we wrote to Rep. Darrell Issa, the Chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, requesting that he send a letter asking you to explain your testimony before our Committee on April 14, 2011, particularly in light of a new videotape taken of you three months before the hearing and an article published by The Nation entitled, “Did Scott Walker Lie Under Oath to Congress?”

On May 22, you were asked about our letter by your local Fox affiliate, but rather than addressing the substance of our request, you accused us of acting politically because we did not send a letter directly to you.

To address your concerns, it may be helpful to explain why we wrote to Chairman Issa instead of to you. Pursuant to our Committee’s protocols, the Chairman typically writes letters on behalf of the entire Committee to seek clarification of previous testimony, to forward questions for the record from Committee Members, and for other purposes relating to witness testimony at Committee hearings. Chairman Issa has written several letters to witnesses this Congress when he believed they were not being truthful or when new information came to light suggesting that their testimony was not accurate.

Since you appear willing to entertain our inquiries directly, we ask that you submit to the Committee written answers to the following three simple questions no later than June 1, 2012:

1. Do you dispute that you met with Diane Hendricks, one of your top donors, on January 18, 2011?

2. Do you dispute that, in response to a question from Ms. Hendricks about whether Wisconsin could become “a completely red state,” you responded “Oh, yeah,” and that your “first step” as Governor would be to “deal with collective bargaining for all public employee unions” in order to “divide and conquer”?

3. In light of your answers to these questions, do you now wish to withdraw your sworn testimony before the Committee in which you asserted that you never “had a conversation with respect to your actions in Wisconsin and using them to punish members of the opposition party and their donor base”?

In the interview with your local Fox affiliate, you stated that “the facts are the facts.” We agree, and in this instance, the facts were captured on videotape.

It is critical for Congress to obtain accurate information from witnesses who testify before the Committee in order to help inform our policy decisions. Your videotaped conversation with Ms. Hendricks not only raises serious concerns about the accuracy of your testimony before the Committee, but it undermines the entire rationale put forward for your unprecedented campaign against public sector workers.

We look forward to receiving your responses to our questions.

Sincerely,

Elijah E. Cummings Gerald E. Connolly Christopher S. Murphy
Ranking Member Committee Member Committee Member
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Old 05-31-2012, 11:51 AM
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Default Scott Walker tries desperately to hang onto his governorship

Governor Walker publicizes that he added another $100,000 to his criminal defense fund, making the total $160,000.

Walker says this money is for photocopying documents to respond to FBI inquiries.

Walker also said something significant yesterday: he said that none of this criminal defense fund will go to pay for the criminal defense of the multiple felony charges much of his former office staff have been already charged with.

Legally, a criminal defense fund can only be established to protect certain entities.

Walker just eliminated everybody but himself.

The second and last Wisconsin debate is tonight, on CSpan. Voting in the recall election is Tuesday. Walker has garnered millions from out-of-state billionaire corporate donors trying to keep him in office against the will of his electorate that have forced a recall.

Walker is the poster child, along with Florida, Michigan and Ohio, of the ALEC-determined Republican puppet politician: the tool for implementing the ALEC agenda of privatizing and profitizing everything possible in this country (including towns like Benton Harbor, MI, ending democratic rule of the town via "emergency manager czars", and the "emergency manager" selling off the town-owned assets to private people. Gee: imagine if "a democrat" had tried that?) Destroying unions and implementing "right to work for less" wage protection destruction feeds directly into the $$ profit of the business owners.

It's easy to get away with, when you can point and scream, "Kenyan non-citizen!" at the President of the United States to distract the foolish. Or, "wefare queen!" Or, "union thugs!"

Getting neighbor to fight neighbor is always a great distraction to keep the little people busy, while the wealthy do what they wish.

Walker will be hit hard with the rising and essentially undeniable appearance that he is fully the remaining subject in the ongoing FBI John Doe criminal investigation in his former office.

But the real story of this election is: American citizens, are you prepared to give up everything you have left: the promise of opportunity, freedom, your life, your education, the future of your kids, the quality of your life - to the wealthiest to own?

Oh, yeah: Scott Walker's reply to Congress, as they have caught Walker lying to Congress, is due to the Congress tomorrow.
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