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Old 05-16-2012, 04:36 PM
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He isn't supposed to be, but the only way you can legally establish the defense fund Walker has established is if you are under investigation.

So that's confusing and implies there may be something pending and coming out in the future..
The above is false, but again why let the facts enter the discussion.
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:42 PM
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The above is false, but again why let the facts enter the discussion.

I said, about the ongoing John Doe felony investigation into Walkers office at his previous government job:
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He isn't supposed to be, [under investigation] but the only way you can legally establish the defense fund Walker has established is if you are under investigation.

So that's confusing and implies there may be something pending and coming out in the future..
What is false about that statement? Be specific. Enter the facts into the discussion.

I'll go first.

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Walker, who was elected governor in 2010, hasn't been charged with any wrongdoing and has repeatedly said he's not the focus of the probe.

He disclosed in March, though, that he set up a legal defense fund using $60,000 in campaign contributions with guidance from the Government Accountability Board. State law allows such moves only if officeholders or their agents have been charged with or are under investigation for election or campaign violations.
It appears my statement is 100% correct. Walker isn't charged, but GAB allowed him to set a defense fund, that can only be set up if, quoting GAB, "you are charged with or under investigation for election or campaign violations".
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:43 PM
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What is false about that statement? Be specific.
Governor Walker does not have to be under investigation personally in order to have a legal defense fund.
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:53 PM
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Governor Walker does not have to be under investigation personally in order to have a legal defense fund.
The Government Accountability Board has repeatedly and publicly said differently since they (the GAB) helped Walker set up the fund according to the law.

Can you quote where you are getting your completely different information?
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:59 PM
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The Government Accountability Board has repeatedly and publicly said differently since they (the GAB) helped Walker set up the fund according to the law.

Can you quote where you are getting your completely different information?
Under state law, he is allowed to create a criminal defense fund if he, his campaign or campaign staffers are under investigation

So if anyone he worked with in his campaign, etc including Darlene Wink was under investigation he can have the defense fund. He does not specifically have to be under investigation

Care to comment on Barrett's wife and the facts behind her illegal actions?
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:09 PM
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Under state law, he is allowed to create a criminal defense fund if he, his campaign or campaign staffers are under investigation
It's a thin line about the campaign staffers, and the GAB was questioned about that at the time but will not respond publicly.

So Walker has been asked many times - again, today - to say publicly why he has established a criminal defense fund using his campaign money.

Is he under investigation, or is it just the ongoing felony investigations of the office staff that was sitting within feet of him in his government office? Because we all know those four members of Walkers staff are charged with felonies as they were not supposed to be doing Walker's campaigning while employed by and at their government jobs. Whoops.

Walker refuses to say. Don't you'd think he'd come out and say - especially right before the election - it's defense money for his staffers, not himself, if that were true?

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Care to comment on Barrett's wife and the facts behind her illegal actions?
Give the details. I'm unfamiliar. Is she a government employee? What did she do?
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:54 PM
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"Scott Walker Magically Turns Dismal Wisconsin Job Numbers Into A Pre-Election Miracle"

However, Scott Walkers Magic Math pretending thousands of new jobs were created was proven wrong today, when the real numbers were released:

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At a time when Wisconsin's jobs statistics are under scrutiny as never before, preliminary data released Thursday showed that Wisconsin lost an estimated 6,200 private-sector jobs in April.

http://www.jsonline.com/business/sta...151909605.html
This man is so desperate to be re-elected that he'll lie about jobs, too, in addition to being caught lying about carrying out the ALEC goal of union busting and removing fair pay for work laws.
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