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View Poll Results: Regarding same sex marriage, I feel ...
Only heterosexual couples can be "married" 5 14.29%
Both heterosexual and homosexual couples can be "married" 19 54.29%
Heteros can marry, but same-sex should be a "civil" union 7 20.00%
Hetero marriage and same sex civil unions should get the same government tax breaks, etc. 3 8.57%
Only hetero marriage and hetero civil unions should get government tax breaks, etc. 1 2.86%
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:52 PM
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i tell you what rupe, since i didn't offer you a better response-altho your absurd question doesn't merit one...

when polygamy becomes a legal practice, and the right to engage in said practice is given to some and not others, i'll be sure and consider that constitutionality then. in the meantime, i'll give it the amount of attention it deserves, which is no more than your absurd 'what if there were no gays' query. in other words, no more than this.
That is the whole point. As of right now, a polygamist is not allowed to marry more than one person. He can have 4 girlfriends at the same time. He can live with all 4 of them. But he can't marry all 4 of them because it is illegal.

And by the same token, a man can date a man and he can live with a man but he cannot marry a man because it is illegal.

That is the law as of right now.

Any by the way, if you think my question is absurd, you should see the questions that the Supreme Court Justices ask. They ask about all kinds of crazy analogies to try to understand why something should apply in one case but not in another. They are always asking, 'Suppose this, and suppose that. Would what you are saying apply in this type of case (some absurd case), if it would apply in the current case we are discussing?'
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:56 PM
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That is the whole point. As of right now, a polygamist is not allowed to marry more than one person. He can have 4 girlfriends at the same time. He can live with all 4 of them. But he can't marry all 4 of them because it is illegal.

And by the same token, a man can date a man and he can live with a man but he cannot marry a man because it is illegal.

That is the law as of right now.
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wow.
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Old 05-12-2012, 10:05 PM
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wow.
Wow? Did I misstate the law? I'm not giving you my opinion. I'm telling what the law is as of right now. Am I misstating the law?
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Old 05-12-2012, 10:18 PM
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not sure what marriage between two consenting adults has to do with polygamy. i don't know why some like to bring that up, or bestiality, or other ridiculous things when people dare mention gay marriage should be allowed.
but hey, rupe. go for it. you go for whatever you want, state it however you wish.
once upon a time DADT was a law of the land...so was slavery. once upon a time i wouldn't have been allowed to vote. so what. those were all incorrect, and were fixed. some states have already recognized that marriage between two consenting adults is a right that should be enjoyed by all, since certain rights were being given to only some TWO people marriages.

thankfully others get it, while some want to come up with cockamamie slippery slope arguments.
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Old 05-12-2012, 10:36 PM
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not sure what marriage between two consenting adults has to do with polygamy. i don't know why some like to bring that up, or bestiality, or other ridiculous things when people dare mention gay marriage should be allowed.
but hey, rupe. go for it. you go for whatever you want, state it however you wish.
once upon a time DADT was a law of the land...so was slavery. once upon a time i wouldn't have been allowed to vote. so what. those were all incorrect, and were fixed. some states have already recognized that marriage between two consenting adults is a right that should be enjoyed by all, since certain rights were being given to only some TWO people marriages.

thankfully others get it, while some want to come up with cockamamie slippery slope arguments.
Polygamy is marriage between 2 consenting adults (at least one of which is married to at least one other person). Why should it be illegal? I'm sure you know I care nothing about polygamy. I'm just trying to make a point. I'm not saying that polygamy should be legal, although I think good arguments could certainly be made in favor of polygamy being legal. It is legal in some countries.

What is your argument as to why polygamy should be illegal? The act itself of a man dating and living with 4 women at once is not illegal. People can do whatever they want. They just can't get the marriage certificates. Anyway, I'm wondering if you have a rational answer as to why the government should prevent a guy from marrying more than one woman. If they are consenting adults, how is it the government's business?
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Old 05-12-2012, 10:43 PM
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oh, rupert, by the way...not interested in your discourse and can no longer see it. so save yourself the energy.
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Old 05-12-2012, 11:21 PM
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oh, rupert, by the way...not interested in your discourse and can no longer see it. so save yourself the energy.
I was simply trying to understand your whole argument. So far I understand half your argument. You don't need to explain the other half if you don't want to.

The other half would be the half where you explain how far the laws (that define marriage) should go and why. In other words, if the government should not be allowed to dictate that marriage is between a man and a woman, should they be able to dictate other aspects of marriage? If so, why?
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