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Only heterosexual couples can be "married" 5 14.29%
Both heterosexual and homosexual couples can be "married" 19 54.29%
Heteros can marry, but same-sex should be a "civil" union 7 20.00%
Hetero marriage and same sex civil unions should get the same government tax breaks, etc. 3 8.57%
Only hetero marriage and hetero civil unions should get government tax breaks, etc. 1 2.86%
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Old 05-13-2012, 01:05 AM
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I don't think you understood my hypothetical question about a world with no gay people.
She definitely understands it.

You don't have to worry yourself even a second more about THAT problem with your "argument."
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Old 05-13-2012, 01:42 AM
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She definitely understands it.

You don't have to worry yourself even a second more about THAT problem with your "argument."
You obviously didn't understand what I was saying either. If you understood it, then tell me what I was saying. What was my point? I will explain it:

My question had to do with the Constitutionality argument. My question was whether the alleged discrimination of not allowing same sex marriage derives simply from the fact that a man can't marry a man, or does it derive because gay people are a group per se, and by not allowing same-sex marriage, you are discriminating against a group. That was what I was trying to ask Danzig.
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Old 05-13-2012, 10:46 AM
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Hey rup, old lawyer joke..

What do you call 100 lawyers holding hands underwater?




A good start...




P.S. my granddaughter is a young lawyer...
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Old 05-13-2012, 04:41 PM
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A short but good editorial on gay marriage:

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It Doesn't Matter What the Bible says About Homosexuality

This is not a theocracy. The bible should not in any way inform our laws. Nor should the Qur'an. Nor the Torah. Nor the Bahagavad Gita. Nor the Jain Agamas. Nor the Book of Mormon. Nor any other religious text. Period. Taking the argument to the bible misses the point.

Every individual has a right to practice religion, or not practice religion, in whatever manner they wish; as long as doing so does not infringe on the same rights of another. When we restrict an individual or group's rights based on the religion of any other individual or group, we deny that person the constitutional protection to freedom of religion. It's really that simple.

Allowing same-sex couples to marry does not restrict anyone else's right to practice their own religion. It doesn't prevent a man and woman to marry in their own church. It doesn't, or shouldn't, force a church who disagrees with same-sex marriage to perform the wedding ceremony.

On the other hand, restricting same-sex couples from marrying DOES infringe on someone's right to freedom of religion. It takes the religious belief of one and imposes it on another. It is unconstitutional period.

There is no need to show that it is okay within a religion, because that doesn't matter. We are Americans. We don't have to justify our actions to any religion.
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Rupert, buddy. Between this and the travon martin thread, I believe you have some issues dude.
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