So let's vote on same sex marriage

[bigrun]

Stewart's take on gay Obama and NC..


http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-epi...2-john-r--hall

[jms62]

Where is the option for?

Let's address this issue when we have Less than 4% unemployment, no active wars and a defecit cut in half.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by jms62

Where is the option for?

Let's address this issue when we have Less than 4% unemployment, no active wars and a defecit cut in half.

That would be never of course, which is your point...If you put that restriction on all threads, there would be no threads here...

[jms62]

Originally Posted by bigrun

That would be never of course, which is your point...If you put that restriction on all threads, there would be no threads here...

My snide comment was not directed at the thread it was directed at our government.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by jms62

My snide comment was not directed at the thread it was directed at our government.

Scoosa me...but the answer would be the same...it would never be addressed..

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

My snide comment was not directed at the thread it was directed at our government.

Did you see Romney in Colorado yesterday? He had a press event, and the reporter came with questions from specific electronic audience members ("this question is from Jim Smith, who would like to know your opinion on ... ") She listed their name, then the question. Romney got pissed the questions were on social issues, rather than the economy, but then attacked the reporter. It was not a good thing.

We need to count the non-economic bills the House has passed, and compare them to the economic bills they've passed over the past couple of years. Go Tea Party!

[Riot]

This is what happens to you - stuff from high school is pulled up - when you are running for President on a platform of passing a constitutional amendment outlawing gay marriage.

Bullying = "hijinks and pranks"? Tell that to current teen suicides.

Good lord. This man has zero soul.

Here's the Washington Post original on his teen bullying: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...KFU_print.html

Here's the fallout starting:

Romney Apologizes For Bullying In Prep School, Says He Didn't Know Victim Was Gay

Sam Stein
Posted: 05/10/2012 12:06 pm Updated: 05/10/2012 12:32 pm

WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney made a surprise appearance on Fox host Brian Kilmeade's radio show Thursday morning to respond to a lengthy Washington Post story on his time as a prep-school prankster and occasional bully of closeted gay students.

"They talk about the fact that I played a lot of pranks in high school," Romney said. "And they describe some that you just say to yourself, back in high school I just did some dumb things and if anybody was hurt by that or offended by it, obviously I apologize."

“I participated in a lot of hijinks and pranks during high school and some might have gone too far and for that, I apologize," he added.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1506382.html

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Riot

This is what happens to you - stuff from high school is pulled up - when you are running for President on a platform of passing a constitutional amendment outlawing gay marriage.

Bullying = "hijinks and pranks"? Tell that to current teen suicides.

Good lord. This man has zero soul.

Here's the Washington Post original on his teen bullying: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...KFU_print.html

Here's the fallout starting:

Romney Apologizes For Bullying In Prep School, Says He Didn't Know Victim Was Gay

Sam Stein
Posted: 05/10/2012 12:06 pm Updated: 05/10/2012 12:32 pm

WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney made a surprise appearance on Fox host Brian Kilmeade's radio show Thursday morning to respond to a lengthy Washington Post story on his time as a prep-school prankster and occasional bully of closeted gay students.

"They talk about the fact that I played a lot of pranks in high school," Romney said. "And they describe some that you just say to yourself, back in high school I just did some dumb things and if anybody was hurt by that or offended by it, obviously I apologize."

“I participated in a lot of hijinks and pranks during high school and some might have gone too far and for that, I apologize," he added.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1506382.html

From the link:
"The idea that Romney, as the presumptive GOP presidential nominee, holds the same mindset now as he did in his prep school days is, of course, absurd. People change, including Obama who had, until Wednesday, spent several years in public life opposing same-sex marriage."

Obama changed, too, from his alcohol bingeing, pot smoking, coke snorting high school daze, to what we now see before us. I don't even believe he eats dogs any more.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

Where is the option for?

Let's address this issue when we have Less than 4% unemployment, no active wars and a defecit cut in half.

many of us can multi-task. altho some items on the agenda may have more importance to the general population than others, they are still important. they still matter.

equal rights for all in this country is one of it's most basic tenets, and what the country was created for to begin with. when people don't have rights that are conferred on others, that's a huge problem, and should never happen here.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

many of us can multi-task. altho some items on the agenda may have more importance to the general population than others, they are still important. they still matter.

equal rights for all in this country is one of it's most basic tenets, and what the country was created for to begin with. when people don't have rights that are conferred on others, that's a huge problem, and should never happen here.

I have a question for you. It's not a trick question. There is no right or wrong answer. You say that if gay marriage is illegal, that is a civil rights issue and gay people are not being allowed the same rights as others.

I think that being gay is genetic in most cases. I don't know what percentage of the time. I'm sure there is a very small percent of the population that are gay simply by choice. But I would guess that in 95% of cases, it is genetic.

Here is my question for you. Let's just pretend that being gay was a choice and was not genetic. Then would you still have the same opinion? In other words, if there was no such thing as gay people, but some people simply had an attraction to both sexes, would it be unconstitutional (in your opinion) if marriage was only legal between a man and a woman?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I have a question for you. It's not a trick question. There is no right or wrong answer. You say that if gay marriage is illegal, that is a civil rights issue and gay people are not being allowed the same rights as others.

I think that being gay is genetic in most cases. I don't know what percentage of the time. I'm sure there is a very small percent of the population that are gay simply by choice. But I would guess that in 95% of cases, it is genetic.

Here is my question for you. Let's just pretend that being gay was a choice and was not genetic. Then would you still have the same opinion? In other words, if there was no such thing as gay people, but some people simply had an attraction to both sexes, would it be unconstitutional (in your opinion) if marriage was only legal between a man and a woman?

i don't give a rats behind why someone wants to marry someone else. whether it be biological or not, it's their business. i certainly didn't have to explain to anyone why i chose to marry my husband.
it's unconstitutional to grant rights to some citizens and not others, which is what currently happens in most states. and i'm ashamed that some countries are ahead of us in this regard.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't give a rats behind why someone wants to marry someone else. whether it be biological or not, it's their business. i certainly didn't have to explain to anyone why i chose to marry my husband.
it's unconstitutional to grant rights to some citizens and not others, which is what currently happens in most states. and i'm ashamed that some countries are ahead of us in this regard.

I don't understand your argument then. If there were no such thing as gay people and I decided out of the blue that I wanted to marry a man, it would be unconstitutional if I wasn't allowed to? I don't see how that could possibly be considered unconstitutional by any measure.

By the way, I didn't say anything about anyone having to explain why they want to marry a certain person.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't understand your argument then. If there were no such thing as gay people and I decided out of the blue that I wanted to marry a man, it would be unconstitutional if I wasn't allowed to? I don't see how that could possibly be considered unconstitutional by any measure.

By the way, I didn't say anything about anyone having to explain why they want to marry a certain person.

well, i don't understand why your posing a question that has nothing to do with anything.
are there gay people? yes. are they citizens of this country? yes. are they given the same rights as heterosexuals insofar as marriage? no. not sure why you want to get into what if's that have nothing to do with any of it.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't give a rats behind why someone wants to marry someone else. whether it be biological or not, it's their business. i certainly didn't have to explain to anyone why i chose to marry my husband.
it's unconstitutional to grant rights to some citizens and not others, which is what currently happens in most states. and i'm ashamed that some countries are ahead of us in this regard.

What are your thoughts on polygamy? Do you think it is unfair that polygamists have had their constitutional rights taken away? Why are polygamists not allowed to marry more than one person? Why is it the governments' business if a guy wants to have 3 wives. If the 3 wives are comfortable with the situation, how does the government have any right to interfere?

As you said, it's unconstitutional to grant rights to some citizens and not others (polygamists). I'm ashamed that some countries are ahead of us in this regard.

[Riot]

The best argument against gay marriage was made by the comic Steven Colbert the other night:

"Marriage was originated so men could pass on their chattel to other men (possessions and daughters). As gays can't reproduce, no need to be married"

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

What are your thoughts on polygamy? Do you think it is unfair that polygamists have had their constitutional rights taken away? Why are polygamists not allowed to marry more than one person? Why is it the governments' business if a guy wants to have 3 wives. If the 3 wives are comfortable with the situation, how does the government have any right to interfere?

As you said, it's unconstitutional to grant rights to some citizens and not others (polygamists). I'm ashamed that some countries are ahead of us in this regard.

edit~
i tell you what rupe, since i didn't offer you a better response-altho your absurd question doesn't merit one...

when polygamy becomes a legal practice, and the right to engage in said practice is given to some and not others, i'll be sure and consider that constitutionality then. in the meantime, i'll give it the amount of attention it deserves, which is no more than your absurd 'what if there were no gays' query. in other words, no more than this.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Stewart's take on gay Obama and NC..


http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-epi...2-john-r--hall

LOL - that was brilliant! And on the stupid NC ballot measure: "Now heterosexual couples in North Carolina will suffer the same lack of rights that gays have always experienced".

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Riot

LOL - that was brilliant! And on the stupid NC ballot measure: "Now heterosexual couples in North Carolina will suffer the same lack of rights that gays have always experienced".

And Kenya is saying Obama was born in Ghana...