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[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Fact: Wisconsin has the worse job creation rate in the country over the past 6-7 months under Scott Walker, 49th in the country.

Stop lying!

Wis monthly unemployment rate for the last year even w/the cuts to public sector jobs

2011 Jan 3069656(B) 2833068(B) 236588(B) 7.7(B)
2011 Feb 3070780(B) 2836783(B) 233997(B) 7.6(B)
2011 Mar 3070312(B) 2838145(B) 232167(B) 7.6(B)
2011 Apr 3067707(B) 2836190(B) 231517(B) 7.5(B)
2011 May 3063898(B) 2831604(B) 232294(B) 7.6(B)
2011 Jun 3060386(B) 2826899(B) 233487(B) 7.6(B)
2011 Jul 3058088(B) 2824515(B) 233573(B) 7.6(B)
2011 Aug 3057357(B) 2825784(B) 231573(B) 7.6(B)
2011 Sep 3057366(B) 2829775(B) 227591(B) 7.4(B)
2011 Oct 3057248(B) 2834554(B) 222694(B) 7.3(B)
2011 Nov 3056534(B) 2838869(B) 217665(B) 7.1(B)
2011 Dec 3056367(B) 2843199(B) 213168(B) 7.0(B)
2012 Jan 3054720(P) 2844774(P) 209946(P) 6.9(P)

6.9% last month reported. What's KY's rate?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Stop lying!

LOL. You stop lying. You're the only one I've ever seen make this argument. Not even the far right-wing blogs make this argument about Wisconsin.

By the way: you posted unemployment rates. Those are not lob loss numbers. Unemployment rate and job loss numbers are two entirely different things.

Use the real Federal Labor Statistic figures, as everyone else in the world does.

MADISON – Today, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released a report compiling job numbers for every state in the Union. The report shows Wisconsin is the only state to have lost jobs for the past six straight months, while the nation as a whole has gained jobs for 22 straight months.

http://www.politiscoop.com/us-politi...job-loss-.html

Figures are in the above story.

Capitol Report: Wisconsin leads nation in job losses

Read more: http://host.madison.com/ct/news/loca...#ixzz1pJYgWU59

Figures contained in article.

Politifact: Wisconsin leads nation in job loss
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/...0000-new-jobs/

Figures contained in article.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

LOL. You stop lying. You're the only one I've ever seen make this argument. Not even the far right-wing blogs make this argument about Wisconsin.

By the way: you posted unemployment rates. Those are not lob loss numbers. Unemployment rate and job loss numbers are two entirely different things.

Use the real Federal Labor Statistic figures, as everyone else in the world does.



Figures are in the above story.



Figures contained in article.

Politifact: Wisconsin leads nation in job loss
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/...0000-new-jobs/

Figures contained in article.

I went directly to the source, The United States Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics, not some article.

BTW KY is 8.8% v. 6.9% WI

You are aware the lower the number the better? I'd be worrying about the State you live in!

http://data.bls.gov/map/MapToolServlet?survey=la

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I went directly to the source, The United States Department of Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics not some article.

You are posting unemployment numbers. Not job loss numbers. Those are two different things. Wisconsin leads the country is jobs lost over the past 6 months. And the figures proving that are posted in everything I cited.

And here's another review of Wisconsin's record setting, disastrous job loss, from today:

http://www.epi.org/blog/wisconsin-an...ector-workers/

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

You are posting unemployment numbers. Not job loss numbers. Those are two different things. Wisconsin leads the country is jobs lost over the past 6 months. And the figures proving that are posted in everything I cited.

And here's another review of Wisconsin's record setting, disastrous job loss, from today:

http://www.epi.org/blog/wisconsin-an...ector-workers/

Why let the facts interrupt your crusade. I can't count how many times you stated that wisconsin had XX many months of straight job loss.
MADISON (AP) - Wisconsin labor officials say the state added 12,500 jobs in January.

Data the Department of Workforce Development released Thursday shows the state added 15,700 jobs but lost 3,200 government jobs.

The state's unemployment rate fell slightly, from 7 percent in December to 6.9 percent in January. The agency cautioned the figures were preliminary but said unemployment was at its lowest since December 2008.



If it were up to the unions and the democrats we would have more job losses in order for them to get Scott Walker recalled. Who has the peoples best interest in mind? The ones who are willing to sacrifice their own in order to get Walker out of office? I noticed you had nothing to say about the letter from the Teachers unions to the MTA...

Facts only the Facts

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Why let the facts interrupt your crusade. I can't count how many times you stated that wisconsin had XX many months of straight job loss.

Because it's true.

But, hey, you keep talking about "facts".

I'm glad the one month of January, after the six straight months of job loss, was a net gain, while the unemployment rates you quote for January of course have nothing to do with job joss numbers for the previous six straight months of job loss in Wisconsin.

Why you think that your quoting one month of January someone magically makes the months of July through December 2011 - the six straight months of job loss that occurred in Wisconsin - invalid, I don't know. Can you explain how that works? Via the "facts"?

http://www.politiscoop.com/us-politi...job-loss-.html.

January 2012
MADISON – Today, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released a report compiling job numbers for every state in the Union. The report shows Wisconsin is the only state to have lost jobs for the past six straight months, while the nation as a whole has gained jobs for 22 straight months.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Because it's true.

But, hey, you keep talking about "facts".

I'm glad the one month of January, after the six straight months of job loss, was a net gain, while the unemployment rates you quote of course have nothing to do with job joss numbers.

Why you think that your quoting one month of January someone magically makes the months of July through December 2011 invalid, I don't know. Can you explain how that works? Via the "facts"?

http://www.politiscoop.com/us-politi...job-loss-.html.

What about Jan '11 thru June '11? Did you post those numbers also that show all of the job gains that more than nulifies all losses? How do the results look from the day Walker took office as compared to the Doyle Administration? Imagine if the democrats worked with governor Walker how many jobs we could have added instead of fighting recalls, political battles,etc

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

You are posting unemployment numbers. Not job loss numbers. Those are two different things. Wisconsin leads the country is jobs lost over the past 6 months. And the figures proving that are posted in everything I cited.

And here's another review of Wisconsin's record setting, disastrous job loss, from today:

http://www.epi.org/blog/wisconsin-an...ector-workers/

Again from the Labor Dept. itself employed in WI!

Including those public sector blood sucking jobs that were cut

2011 Jan 3069656(B) 2833068(B)
2011 Feb 3070780(B) 2836783(B)
2011 Mar 3070312(B) 2838145(B)
2011 Apr 3067707(B) 2836190(B)
2011 May 3063898(B) 2831604(B)
2011 Jun 3060386(B) 2826899(B)
2011 Jul 3058088(B) 2824515(B)
2011 Aug 3057357(B) 2825784(B)
2011 Sep 3057366(B) 2829775(B)
2011 Oct 3057248(B) 2834554(B)
2011 Nov 3056534(B) 2838869(B)
2011 Dec 3056367(B) 2843199(B)
2012 Jan 3054720(P) 2844774(P)

1rst number is labor force second employed!

Get a clue. KY and your native IL is what should be following WI lead.

On Wisconsin !!!!

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Again from the Labor Dept. itself employed in WI!

Including those public sector blood sucking jobs that were cut

2011 Jan 3069656(B) 2833068(B)
2011 Feb 3070780(B) 2836783(B)
2011 Mar 3070312(B) 2838145(B)
2011 Apr 3067707(B) 2836190(B)
2011 May 3063898(B) 2831604(B)
2011 Jun 3060386(B) 2826899(B)
2011 Jul 3058088(B) 2824515(B)
2011 Aug 3057357(B) 2825784(B)
2011 Sep 3057366(B) 2829775(B)
2011 Oct 3057248(B) 2834554(B)
2011 Nov 3056534(B) 2838869(B)
2011 Dec 3056367(B) 2843199(B)
2012 Jan 3054720(P) 2844774(P)

1rst number is labor force second employed!

Get a clue. KY and your native IL is what should be following WI lead.

On Wisconsin !!!!

Math...

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Math...

I've met this Riot in person. She's a mess, trust me!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Math...

No, we haven't gotten to "math". We are still trying to get Dell to understand that we are not talking about percentage of unemployed compared to those working, but number of jobs lost.

No. Those are not. the. same. thing. Apples and oranges. Actually, apples and vegetables.

As illustrated on the graph, and in the multiple articles I linked to. Wisconsin: worst job loss in the nation. Six straight months of job loss.

Except in Dell and Wiphan's imaginary fantasy land of denial.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Again from the Labor Dept. itself employed in WI!

1rst number is labor force second employed!

God help us. Dell - the numbers you are posting are percentage of unemployed.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. The percentage of unemployed out of the workforce is not the same thing as the number of jobs lost. The number of jobs lost does not correlate to that percentage. Apples and oranges.