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Old 03-09-2012, 03:47 PM
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Oh that is right our state was built on Mining. And yes it can actually be done with environmental protections under the proposed legislature.
Well, the majority thinks the proposed legislation indeed removed massive environmental protections, so the majority voted it down.

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I am sure you are one that believes in things like we shouldn't develop a piece of land because their might be a butler snake that inhabits the area.
You're prejudiced? You assume things about groups of people based upon your assumptions? Glad to see you admit that up front. Saves you from having to deal with individuality and reality, doesn't it?

You're wrong about the snake, but don't let reality change your prejudices.

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Please post your link from the company stating that they left because of dropping ore prices and not because of the vote. I see nothing but the opposite
Try the AP. The Milwaukee JS. Etc.

Better to just face it: the majority voted down this bill whose only point was to strip mining regulations and environmental protections.

The only way the company could make money was if those regulations - which cost money - were removed.

They would not be. The company dropped out when the vote didn't fly through and the people of Wisconsin stood up to the rushed passage.

Good for Wisconsin's environment, it's streams and rivers, it's people. Oh, yeah: especially the native Americans whose lands would be negatively impacted.

This bill wasn't about jobs, it was about stripping the environment. Walker's Wisconsin is a disaster - month after month of massive job losses in the private sector as soon as Walker's budget kicked in. The inherited deficit still there. Walkers budget 140 million in the hole. Removal of worker rights in the face of complete cooperation regarding cutting pay and benefits. Walker is ruining Wisconsin faster than Lake Michigan can erode our family lakefront in Racine. Oh, yeah - I do care about Wisconsin, and how dare you arrogantly lecture me that I can not.
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Old 03-09-2012, 03:59 PM
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Well, the majority thinks the proposed legislation indeed removed massive environmental protections, so the majority voted it down.

Democracy. It's a good thing



You're prejudiced? You assume things about groups of people based upon your assumptions? Glad to see you admit that up front. Saves you from having to deal with individuality and reality, doesn't it?

You're wrong about the snake, but don't let reality change your prejudices.



Try the AP. The Milwaukee JS. Etc.

Better to just face it: the majority voted down this bill whose only point was to strip mining regulations and environmental protections.

The only way the company could make money was if those regulations - which cost money - were removed.

They would not be. The company dropped out when the vote didn't fly through and the people of Wisconsin stood up to the rushed passage.

Good for Wisconsin's environment, it's streams and rivers, it's people. Oh, yeah: especially the native Americans whose lands would be negatively impacted.

This bill wasn't about jobs, it was about stripping the environment. Walker's Wisconsin is a disaster - month after month of massive job losses in the private sector as soon as Walker's budget kicked in. The inherited deficit still there. Walkers budget 140 million in the hole. Removal of worker rights in the face of complete cooperation regarding cutting pay and benefits. Walker is ruining Wisconsin faster than Lake Michigan can erode our family lakefront in Racine. Oh, yeah - I do care about Wisconsin, and how dare you arrogantly lecture me that I can not.
Please post your link showing that the company pulled out prior to the vote because of dropping ore prices. You went off on a tangent about walker. I would like your link please
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:04 PM
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Please post your link showing that the company pulled out prior to the vote because of dropping ore prices. You went off on a tangent about walker. I would like your link please
You were the one that incorrectly was saying "wrong, wrong, wrong", thus you do your own homework. I'm not doing it for you. As I said, try the AP, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, etc. Try the press conference the CEO held before the vote.

As I said, Taconite could only make money at this project by the stripping of all the expensive environmental regs. That's what the bill was trying to do. That is why the bill exists. As soon as the GOP couldn't shove the bill through, the company said they wouldn't pursue it, as ore prices were rising as the wait was occurring. And then the vote came up against them, anyway.
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:34 PM
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You were the one that incorrectly was saying "wrong, wrong, wrong", thus you do your own homework. I'm not doing it for you. As I said, try the AP, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, etc.
I didn't find it, but I did find this

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/142085663.html


Looks like the DNR even agrees with the Republicans. That is AMAZING!
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:38 PM
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Looks like the DNR even agrees with the Republicans. That is AMAZING!
It's a shame you find that "AMAZING". Most people are not black and white demagogues, hateful of the "other side", regarding government and politics. That, unfortunately, is a relatively new phenomena. Wisconsin will take years to recover from the political hate and intolerance which is coming, frankly, from a small minority of citizens and politicians.
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Old 03-09-2012, 04:56 PM
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It's a shame you find that "AMAZING". Most people are not black and white demagogues, hateful of the "other side", regarding government and politics. That, unfortunately, is a relatively new phenomena. Wisconsin will take years to recover from the political hate and intolerance which is coming, frankly, from a small minority of citizens and politicians.
You obviously have never dealt with the DNR in the state of WI. What is amazing is that someone at the DNR agrees with the bill. Doesn't that open your eyes at all?
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Old 03-09-2012, 06:24 PM
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You obviously have never dealt with the DNR in the state of WI. What is amazing is that someone at the DNR agrees with the bill. Doesn't that open your eyes at all?
It tells me that alot of people are political whor.es. No eye-opening there. It is what it is.
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Old 03-12-2012, 07:48 AM
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It's a shame you find that "AMAZING". Most people are not black and white demagogues, hateful of the "other side", regarding government and politics.
what's amazing is you, RIot, actually posted this. considering you are the poster child of hate when it comes to republicans.

biggest hypocrite on the internet? Riot for sure.
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