Timmy Ice Tebow...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

thats probably the worst comparison I've ever heard! this is the fucl<ing NFL, the polar opposite of claiming ranks. At least DrugS Zenyatta comparison made some sense.

3 of the teams he beat are in playoff contention! So no, that arguement is pure bullshit.

lol easy killer!!

a team being in playoff contention doesn't mean they are a good team. hell, denver is in contention, might even win their division. there are 5-7 teams in contention, i saw the list on tv yesterday. imo, a less than .500 team is a crappy team.


my point was that altho rr is a record holder, he's not a top horse. in that same vein, tebow is a qb in the nfl, doesn't mean he's a future hof'er. i have enjoyed watching him and his team claw back and win week after week, it's been infinitely enjoyable. i'll get a kick out of it if it continues. however, that doesn't mean that i think tebow is a good qb.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

lo. imo, a less than .500 team is a crappy team.
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The Eagles are 5-8. they are having a terrible season. but they still have the talent to win any individual game when they play well.

someone who is 7-1 in the national football league is doing a hell of a job. doesnt matter who they are playing. The only team that truely has no shot at winning on a given week are the Colts. and last time I checked, Tebow hasnt played them.

There are a lot of arguements that can be rationally made against tim tebow. His competition is not one of them.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

There are a lot of arguements that can be rationally made against tim tebow. His competition is not one of them.

Oy vey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz2kvJf22gs

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Oy vey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz2kvJf22gs

thankfully i can not view youtube.

ask anyone who's ever played or coached in the nfl if its easy to go 7-1.

The niners lost to arizona yesterday. at this level, every single victory is earned.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

thankfully i can not view youtube.

ask anyone who's ever played or coached in the nfl if its easy to go 7-1.

The niners lost to arizona yesterday. at this level, every single victory is earned.

It's a lot easier to go 7-1 when you play mediocre teams or teams without their starting QB AND star RB.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

It's a lot easier to go 7-1 when you play mediocre teams or teams without their starting QB AND star RB.

it takes a lack of perspective of how good nfl players really are to degrade the broncos for winning 7 of 8 games.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

it takes a lack of perspective of how good nfl players really are to degrade the broncos for winning 7 of 8 games.

Smooth Operator, is that you?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

The Eagles are 5-8. they are having a terrible season. but they still have the talent to win any individual game when they play well.

someone who is 7-1 in the national football league is doing a hell of a job. doesnt matter who they are playing. The only team that truely has no shot at winning on a given week are the Colts. and last time I checked, Tebow hasnt played them.

There are a lot of arguements that can be rationally made against tim tebow. His competition is not one of them.

of course level of competition matters. when they played a better team, they got owned. detroit isn't even the best team in the league and they crushed denver. considering the competition gives you some idea of what this team can look forward to.
i hope they beat the pats-but hell, the skins almost beat they and they're crappy-and that's my team! but i can be honest and objective when it comes to looking at them. do i expect denver to win next weekend? no. that's not hating, that's just based on assessing the two teams.
when denver gets to the playoffs and starts playing only other top teams, just how far do you think they'll get?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

of course level of competition matters. when they played a better team, they got owned. detroit isn't even the best team in the league and they crushed denver. considering the competition gives you some idea of what this team can look forward to.
i hope they beat the pats-but hell, the skins almost beat they and they're crappy-and that's my team! but i can be honest and objective when it comes to looking at them. do i expect denver to win next weekend? no. that's not hating, that's just based on assessing the two teams.
when denver gets to the playoffs and starts playing only other top teams, just how far do you think they'll get?

they'll get as far as their defense takes them.

it takes a lack of perpective of how good nfl players really are to degrade the broncos for winning 7 of 8 games.

at the time when the lions beat denver, they were considered one of the best teams in football. I guess Tebow deserves the criticism that he is 7-1 instead of 8-0.

[Antitrust32]

according to the football experts on this board.. The Green Bay Packers are the only team in the NFL that isnt crappy because they havent lost.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

they'll get as far as their defense takes them.

it takes a lack of perpective of how good nfl players really are to degrade the broncos for winning 7 of 8 games.

at the time when the lions beat denver, they were considered one of the best teams in football. I guess Tebow deserves the criticism that he is 7-1 instead of 8-0.

no one is degrading them! at least no one i've heard, read...

to be honest, i'd love for them to win out. it would crack me up immensely to see so many who completely discounted tebow and co to do that. but do i expect it? no. that doesn't make me a hater. that makes me a realist.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no one is degrading them! at least no one i've heard, read...

to be honest, i'd love for them to win out. it would crack me up immensely to see so many who completely discounted tebow and co to do that. but do i expect it? no. that doesn't make me a hater. that makes me a realist.

i dont think you are a hater. I've just said that the competition arguement is an arguement that "haters" use. because they are making up talking points that lack perspective because tebow keeps doing something they dont think he can do.. win.

I dont think the Broncos will beat the Patriots on sunday. the Pats are a top 3 team in football IMO. but what will be idiotic, is if the pats win, everyone who doesnt root for Tebow will be "hey look and see.. Tebow sucks" and he'll still be 7-2 for a team he took over at 1-4 and everyone predicted they put tebow in so they can get the first pick in the draft.

[Antitrust32]

if DT makes that 55 yard TD catch he let slip through his hands... and Praters first 29 yard FG isnt blocked.. and the Broncos put up 20 points on Urlacher, Peppers, etc when they had those points in their grasp.... would you guys still be talking the same crap about the Broncos offense?

Would the broncos top 2 recievers be anything more than 4th or 5th WR's on 90% of NFL teams?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

i dont think you are a hater. I've just said that the competition arguement is an arguement that "haters" use. because they are making up talking points that lack perspective because tebow keeps doing something they dont think he can do.. win.

I dont think the Broncos will beat the Patriots on sunday. the Pats are a top 3 team in football IMO. but what will be idiotic, is if the pats win, everyone who doesnt root for Tebow will be "hey look and see.. Tebow sucks" and he'll still be 7-2 for a team he took over at 1-4 and everyone predicted they put tebow in so they can get the first pick in the draft.

too true.