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[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/a...mpid=125219969

Now this is something I really really really support!!

i support it as well. but this made me laugh and roll my eyes:


"I can report that, as promised, the rest of our troops in Iraq will come home by the end of the year," Obama said. "After nearly nine years, America's war in Iraq will be over."



yeah, now he claims credit. guy worked his ass off trying to get them to let us stay. but no agreement reached because iraq wouldn't give our soldiers immunity from prosecution. so, obama touts a promise kept, while actually doing everything possible not to keep it!!

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i support it as well. but this made me laugh and roll my eyes:


"I can report that, as promised, the rest of our troops in Iraq will come home by the end of the year," Obama said. "After nearly nine years, America's war in Iraq will be over."



yeah, now he claims credit. guy worked his ass off trying to get them to let us stay. but no agreement reached because iraq wouldn't give our soldiers immunity from prosecution. so, obama touts a promise kept, while actually doing everything possible not to keep it!!

Good point! Bottom line however is that it's finally over and for that I'm happy! Two down and one to go!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

"I can report that, as promised, the rest of our troops in Iraq will come home by the end of the year," Obama said. "After nearly nine years, America's war in Iraq will be over." yeah, now he claims credit. This guy worked his ass off trying to get them to let us stay. but no agreement reached because iraq wouldn't give our soldiers immunity from prosecution. so, obama touts a promise kept, while actually doing everything possible not to keep it!!

"Claiming credit" is a pretty unfair accusation, 'Zig - the Troops Agreement - which is the promise he's talking about - made by Bush has been public knowledge for ... years, as has the withdrawal date 12-31-2011, as has the US ongoing negotiations over the past year discussing if a limited number of troops there (Iraq's request, btw).

Geesh, what an unfair attack on Obama. He's just doing what we knew the end would probably be, from the negotiated agreements and ongoing negotiations, months ago.

Just be happy the troops are home.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

"Claiming credit" is a pretty unfair accusation, 'Zig - the Troops Agreement - which is the promise he's talking about - made by Bush has been public knowledge for ... years, as has the withdrawal date 12-31-2011, as has the US ongoing negotiations over the past year discussing if a limited number of troops there (Iraq's request, btw).

Geesh, what an unfair attack on Obama. He's just doing what we knew the end would probably be, from the negotiated agreements and ongoing negotiations, months ago.

Just be happy the troops are home.

lol
no, it's not unfair. obama fought tooth and nail to keep us over there. he failed, so he's still trying to spin this as a positive. had iraq agreed to immunity for our troops, they'd be staying. i'm glad they didn't agree!
yes, i am happy the troops are coming home, they should never have been sent to begin with.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

lol
no, it's not unfair. obama fought tooth and nail to keep us over there. he failed, so he's still trying to spin this as a positive.

You mean like when combat troops were supposed to all come home now per the Agreement, but Obama got combat troops out a year ago last August?

And it seems unfair to say, "Obama fought tooth and nail to keep us over there", when (after he got combat troops out a year early) the Iraqi's wanted us to keep some troops there to train, but then wouldn't accomodate what the US demands were. Trying to work with Iraqi requests is "fought tooth and nail"?

Geeshus - the guy announced, "The war is over". It is! That is exactly what any President would announce right now. Using it as an excuse to badmouth Obama and call this a failure (?!) is a pretty tacky attack.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

You mean like when combat troops were supposed to all come home now per the Agreement, but Obama got combat troops out a year ago last August?

And it seems unfair to say, "Obama fought tooth and nail to keep us over there", when the Iraqi's wanted us to keep some troops there to train, but then wouldn't accomodate what the US demands were.

yes, obama and company wanted to stay. the sole sticking point was immunity, iraq wouldn't grant it.
you can call it unfair all you want, it doesn't change the truth of the matter.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

yes, obama and company wanted to stay.

Because the Iraqis requested us to, and only with a few thousand training troops ! "Obama and company wanted to stay" - except where he got 40,000 combat troops out a year early?

Well, we can all be happy that's done.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Because the Iraqis requested us to, and only with a few thousand training troops !

Well, we can all be happy that's done.

yes, we can only consider obama in a good light. sorry, i forgot that. although he and his administration were doing everything possible to stay, absolutely i give him sole credit for not doing so. he should have statues built in his honor for doing what was said would be done, regardless of what he really wanted.