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[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

LOL - what imaginary posts are you reading? No. I actually listed the House and Senate vote results. Just to show how Chuck's statement "virtually every Democrat in Congress" shouldn't be conceded, because it's simply demonstrably wrong.

How in the world is listing the actual votes (disproving Chuck's claim) "talking about everything except that vote"??? That's a crazy statement.

49 out of 50 Democratic senators voted yes for the Patriot Act
That would be 98%
145 out of 207 Democratic Representatives voted yes for the Patriot Act
That would be 70%

So please explain to me how I was "demonstrably" wrong? 8 out of 10 Democratic Congressmen voted FOR the Patriot act including 98% of the Senators yet you want to contest my statement? LOL

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

49 out of 50 Democratic senators voted yes for the Patriot Act
That would be 98%
145 out of 207 Democratic Representatives voted yes for the Patriot Act
That would be 70%

So please explain to me how I was "demonstrably" wrong? 8 out of 10 Democratic Congressmen voted FOR the Patriot act including 98% of the Senators yet you want to contest my statement? LOL

Coming from the guy who thinks there's been no attacks on abortion rights or worker rights recently I think it's pretty self explainatory that your attempt to falsely color the Patriot Act as an overwhelming majority of Democratic culpability is laughable.

Oh, and include the renewal of the Patriot Acts' three provisions - who was against that?

And I'll point out that once again, as is your wont, you've avoided discussing the question, and created a false straw man diversion. Can't debate the subject, huh? Here was the comment you were trying to answer by changing the subject to the Patriot Act.

I said: "That's right, Tea Party, your rights have been removed, in a very real manner, and you haven't even noticed, being distracted by shiny birth certificates and Muslim Communists dangled before you by GOP-TV"

Do you have anything to address regarding a political faction who purports to "defend liberty and Constitutional rights" while completely ignoring their factual removal? Other than to try and re-write history to make the Patriot Act the result of those darn Democrats?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Coming from the guy who thinks there's been no attacks on abortion rights or worker rights recently I think it's pretty self explainatory that your attempt to falsely color the Patriot Act as an overwhelming majority of Democratic culpability is laughable.

Oh, and include the renewal of the Patriot Acts' three provisions - who was against that?

And I'll point out that once again, as is your wont, you've avoided discussing the question, and created a false straw man diversion. Can't debate the subject, huh? Here was the comment you were trying to answer by changing the subject to the Patriot Act.



Do you have anything to address regarding a political faction who purports to "defend liberty and Constitutional rights" while completely ignoring their factual removal? Other than to try and re-write history to make the Patriot Act the result of those darn Democrats?

no, the patriot act was most definitely something passed by both parties. not just one, and certainly not just the other. a disgrace that belongs too all our wonderful leaders. yep, they know what's best for us peons.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no, the patriot act was most definitely something passed by both parties. not just one, and certainly not just the other. a disgrace that belongs too all our wonderful leaders. yep, they know what's best for us peons.

Tell that to Chuck. He thinks it was a Democratic thing. I was the one that posted the article link about how all branches of government, and all parties, have been corroding our rights. You know, I'm "one of those people".

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Tell that to Chuck. He thinks it was a Democratic thing. I was the one that posted the article link about how all branches of government, and all parties, have been corroding our rights. You know, I'm "one of those people".

You are "one of those people". I pointed out that Democrats voted overwhelmingly for the Patriot Act and you attempt to dispute that and now are making false assertions because you don't want to face the truth.

GOP.tv remember?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You are "one of those people". I pointed out that Democrats voted overwhelmingly for the Patriot Act and you attempt to dispute that and now are making false assertions because you don't want to face the truth.

GOP.tv remember?

I give up. You have no reading comprehension.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

I give up. You have no reading comprehension.

Actually I understand completely what you are trying to say which is why I post in the political section

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no, the patriot act was most definitely something passed by both parties. not just one, and certainly not just the other. a disgrace that belongs too all our wonderful leaders. yep, they know what's best for us peons.

She refuses to admit that the Democrats voted overwhelmingly FOR the Patriot Act. No one ever made any insinuation other than that despite Riot's attempt to twist.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

She refuses to admit that the Democrats voted overwhelmingly FOR the Patriot Act. No one ever made any insinuation other than that despite Riot's attempt to twist.

yes, i know.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Coming from the guy who thinks there's been no attacks on abortion rights or worker rights recently I think it's pretty self explainatory that your attempt to falsely color the Patriot Act as an overwhelming majority of Democratic culpability is laughable.

Oh, and include the renewal of the Patriot Acts' three provisions - who was against that?

And I'll point out that once again, as is your wont, you've avoided discussing the question, and created a false straw man diversion. Can't debate the subject, huh? Here was the comment you were trying to answer by changing the subject to the Patriot Act.



Do you have anything to address regarding a political faction who purports to "defend liberty and Constitutional rights" while completely ignoring their factual removal? Other than to try and re-write history to make the Patriot Act the result of those darn Democrats?

Do you take stupid pills? I made no references to anything except showing that the Democrats were just as complicit in passing the Patriot act as the GOP. 49 out of 50 Democratic senators said yes. You want to talk about removal od civil liberties and call the Patriot Act a "strawman"? How about this is the first place to start.

Of course then you deflect to the Tea Party which has nothing to do with the Patriot act or those who passed it.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Do you take stupid pills?

It's pretty apparent you can't follow a thread. But if trying to insult me as a "mentally deficient radical" makes you feel smart, have at it.

I made no references to anything except showing that the Democrats were just as complicit in passing the Patriot act as the GOP. 49 out of 50 Democratic senators said yes. You want to talk about removal od civil liberties and call the Patriot Act a "strawman"? How about this is the first place to start.
Of course then you deflect to the Tea Party which has nothing to do with the Patriot act or those who passed it.

Stupid pills? I was talking about the Tea Party not paying attention to what has happened in this country, and you go off on me about the Patriot Act.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

It's pretty apparent you can't follow a thread. But if trying to insult me as a "mentally deficient radical" makes you feel smart, have at it.



Stupid pills? I was talking about the Tea Party not paying attention to what has happened in this country, and you go off on me about the Patriot Act.

The posts are black and white. Explain how the Democrats voted for the Patriot Act and havent done anything to change it since gaining control which they have since lost? Talking about the erosion of civil liberties and NOT using the patriot act is folly.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The posts are black and white. Explain how the Democrats voted for the Patriot Act and havent done anything to change it since gaining control which they have since lost? Talking about the erosion of civil liberties and NOT using the patriot act is folly.

Nobody declined to talk about the Patriot Act. You mentioned it, then went into a paragraph of personal insults. Your posts are black and white. You don't post to talk about politics.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Nobody declined to talk about the Patriot Act. You mentioned it, then went into a paragraph of personal insults. Your posts are black and white. You don't post to talk about politics.

would you consider calling folks jackasses a personal insult?