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Riot 09-14-2011 07:44 PM

WI Governor Walker top aid under FBI investigation
 
Uh oh ....

FBI seizes items at home of former top aide to Gov. Walker

... snip ...

The raid on Archer's home coincides with a John Doe investigation in Milwaukee County.

That probe was started last year after the Journal Sentinel reported that another Walker staffer who was being paid by Milwaukee County taxpayers to help citizens with county services was instead using her work time to post anonymous comments supporting candidate Walker on websites and blogs. As part of the investigation, authorities earlier seized the work computers of two former Walker staffers and executed a search warrant of one of their homes.

Archer, who also held the top staff position under Walker while he served as Milwaukee County executive, said as recently as Friday in an email to the Journal Sentinel that she was "not involved in any way in the John Doe investigation."

John Doe investigations are secret proceedings in which witnesses can be subpoenaed and compelled to testify under oath about potential criminal matters and are forbidden from talking publicly about the case. Sources said prosecutors have been looking into whether county staffers were doing political work while on the clock and failing to do county jobs.

The governor's campaign retained former U.S. Attorney Steven Biskupic after it received a subpoena for campaign emails shortly before last year's November election. His campaign has paid nearly $60,000 to Biskupic's firm, Michael Best & Friedrich, in the first half of the year.

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http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...129801878.html

dellinger63 09-14-2011 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 806902)
Uh oh ....

FBI seizes items at home of former top aide to Gov. Walker

... snip ...

The raid on Archer's home coincides with a John Doe investigation in Milwaukee County.

That probe was started last year after the Journal Sentinel reported that another Walker staffer who was being paid by Milwaukee County taxpayers to help citizens with county services was instead using her work time to post anonymous comments supporting candidate Walker on websites and blogs. As part of the investigation, authorities earlier seized the work computers of two former Walker staffers and executed a search warrant of one of their homes.

Archer, who also held the top staff position under Walker while he served as Milwaukee County executive, said as recently as Friday in an email to the Journal Sentinel that she was "not involved in any way in the John Doe investigation."

John Doe investigations are secret proceedings in which witnesses can be subpoenaed and compelled to testify under oath about potential criminal matters and are forbidden from talking publicly about the case. Sources said prosecutors have been looking into whether county staffers were doing political work while on the clock and failing to do county jobs.

The governor's campaign retained former U.S. Attorney Steven Biskupic after it received a subpoena for campaign emails shortly before last year's November election. His campaign has paid nearly $60,000 to Biskupic's firm, Michael Best & Friedrich, in the first half of the year.

... snip ...

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...129801878.html

wow posting supportive political comments on goverment time? Give her the chair!

Question: What were the WI Dem senators, who ran away to Illinois, doing on goverment time? If I remember correctly they were making political comments. :zz:

Riot 09-14-2011 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 806905)
wow posting supportive political comments on goverment time? Give her the chair!

You do realize that there are strict laws (see Sarah Palin, for example) that separate political action from one's job, in order to protect the employee from patronage, threat, intimidation ...

... oh, never mind.

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Question: What were the WI Dem senators, who ran away to Illinois, doing on goverment time?
Only if you consider their "government time" 24-hours a day. What a bizzarro analogy :p

dellinger63 09-14-2011 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 806914)
You do realize that there are strict laws (see Sarah Palin, for example) that separate political action from one's job, in order to protect the employee from patronage, threat, intimidation ...

... oh, never mind.:p


How many years, if guilty, should she get?

dellinger63 09-14-2011 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 806914)


Only if you consider their "government time" 24-hours a day. What a bizzarro analogy :p

I loved how several of them 'needed' to collect their pay checks after only a couple of weeks, a sure sign of a financial situation/status that reflects immaturity and irresponsibility. But I'd expect nothing more from that crew as it mirrors their investment ideas/results regarding the public's money. :D

Riot 09-14-2011 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 806928)
How many years, if guilty, should she get?

Didn't read the article again, did you? :rolleyes: I might point out ...

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The John Doe investigation has already resulted in one conviction.

William Gardner, president and chief executive officer of Wisconsin & Southern Railroad Co., was sentenced to two years' probation after pleading guilty to two felony violations of state campaign finance laws for exceeding the donation limits and laundering donations to Walker and other Wisconsin politicians.
I hope there is alot more there than what they are talking about superficially in the article, with the FBI involved. Oh, wait - two felony convictions already, and a widening circle of investigation. We'll see if anything more comes from it.

dellinger63 09-14-2011 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 806947)
Didn't read the article again, did you? :rolleyes:

I hope there is alot more there than what they are talking about, with the FBI involved.


I realize you somehow hope Walker was running a slave camp, requiring his employees to act like a Chicago, Daley Sr. era machine but good luck with that. This man is revered in Wisconsin partly due to the fact he is so despised elsewhere. See it took me a while but FIB is meant more as a statement rather than a joke.

Allowing school boards to ‘shop’ for insurance has saved each district millions, all of which will be used to educate students rather than paying for overpriced insurance and alleviate or at least reduce the need to raise property taxes, already hit by falling off the cliff home prices. Teachers still have their jobs and union and the sky didn't fall.

BTW how do KY schools match up against WI schools in standardized tests/ACT’s etc?

Riot 09-14-2011 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 806953)
I realize you somehow hope Walker was running a slave camp, requiring his employees to act like a Chicago, Daley Sr. era machine but good luck with that.

No Dell, I hope that anyone that broke the law is brought to justice. Walker's campaign (not necessarily Walker) apparently has a real problem, with felony convictions already resulting and other people being investigated.

Yeah, that's kinda of significant. Kind of sad that $60,000 of Wisconsin citizen campaign donations to Walker have already been spent on legal fees. Geesh, the guy was just elected, and this has been ongoing since before he was elected! Good thing nothing came out before the election. Because citizens, you know, like to know what they are putting into office.

You Scott Walker fans should donate some more money to the campaign, to help with the staff defense. The legal fees are ongoing.

Or, you can just ignore it's happening.

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The governor's campaign retained former U.S. Attorney Steven Biskupic after it received a subpoena for campaign emails shortly before last year's November election. His campaign has paid nearly $60,000 to Biskupic's firm, Michael Best & Friedrich, in the first half of the year.
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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 806953)
BTW how do KY schools match up against WI schools in standardized tests/ACT’s etc?

I don't know, but I would imagine that generally KY schools are terrible in rural areas. The schools in the town where I live do okay, but I don't think they are exceptional.

If you are trying to play "you against me", you'll have to use Illinois Districts 59 and 214. I would imagine those kick your WI schools asses :D

dellinger63 09-14-2011 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 806956)
If you are trying to play "you against me", you'll have to use Illinois Districts 59 and 214. I would imagine those kick your WI schools asses :D

No Riot that I went to Catholic school and we outscored our public alternatives. Even if I had gone to public school I'd still have you beat bad as it would have been IL Districts 29 and 203. But go look up the stats and get back to me.

Riot 09-14-2011 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 806958)
No Riot that I went to Catholic school and we outscored our public alternatives. Even if I had gone to public school I'd still have you beat bad as it would have been IL Districts 29 and 203. But go look up the stats and get back to me.

:zz: :D You brought it up. If you care about the stats of different schools, you look them up! I wasn't talking about schools. I don't give a ****. Why would I bother to look up stats (what stats?) about schools in Wisconsin? That's crazy :D You were the one that randomly went off speculating about schools, in a thread about FBI felony investigation of Gov. Walker's campaign employees.

You're drunk or crazy :D Or you have serious ADD

dellinger63 09-14-2011 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 806959)
You brought it up. If you care about the stats of different schools, you look them up! I wasn't talking about schools. I don't give a ****. Why would I bother to look up stats (what stats?) about schools in Wisconsin? That's crazy :D You were the one that randomly went off speculating about schools, in a thread about FBI felony investigation of Gov. Walker's campaign employees.

You're drunk or crazy Or you have serious ADD

Ok I did the work since I randomly speculated about schools and you randomly gave false information, bragging about a smelly crap.

Elementary 70th v. 524th lol :eek: (can you smell what Riot's cooking?)

High School 10th v. 97th

Hint for the crazy woman; the lower the number the better!

http://www.schooldigger.com/go/IL/districtrank.aspx

My point is worry about your own state and let the people of Wisconsin worry about theirs. No teachers' union was ever broken and until your State's education system comes close to Wisconsin's keep your ears and eyes open and mouth closed and you may learn a few things you can utilize and help the kids back home. If Walker is ever indicted and or convicted you can cum then :)

BTW since you're such a stickler for campaign laws I can't believe not a single comment on Norman Hsu or Tony Rezko from you. :zz:

Riot 09-15-2011 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 806962)
Ok I did the work since I randomly speculated about schools and you randomly gave false information, bragging about a smelly crap.

Your brain has been permanently altered by the alcohol, hasn't it?

dellinger63 09-16-2011 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 807121)
Your brain has been permanently altered by the alcohol, hasn't it?

It might be a hormone or chemical problem on your side. Look back to when you became a democrat and what the cause was. When you gave up any sense of reality and started believing in magic. When you started defending Arab men's treatment of women, while at the same time condemning and vilifying any American man who speaks out on abortion as anti-woman. The moment when the light bulb went on in your head and you thought ‘that Jimmy Carter, he gets the middle east’ gives yet another clue into when things changed, went bad.

You realize you are the first here to point out the weakness of going off subject with personal insults yet you also are the biggest culprit of such. Can you say hypocrite yet again?

To get personal, the biggest negative factor in having the BC at Churchill for me, in the past, has been concern over the weather but now, knowing you are somewhere within the State of Kentucky, squatting like a hairy Yeti, surpasses that concern. I’ll have to turn up the consumption level and hope that the weather is bearable. :D

Riot 09-16-2011 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 807183)
It might be a hormone or chemical problem on your side. Look back to when you became a democrat and what the cause was.

Yeah, you & reality - not close :D Like calling me a hypocrite for an opinion I've never expressed, you directly admitting you haven't a clue what I think about it, yet refusing to take back your baseless insult.

BTW - I never "became a Democrat". Still a registered Republican ;) Have another drink, buddy.

dellinger63 09-17-2011 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 807255)
BTW - I never "became a Democrat". Still a registered Republican.

:eek::eek::tro:

You may simply be bat crazy.

Danzig 09-17-2011 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 806947)
Didn't read the article again, did you? :rolleyes: I might point out ...



I hope there is alot more there than what they are talking about superficially in the article, with the FBI involved. Oh, wait - two felony convictions already, and a widening circle of investigation. We'll see if anything more comes from it.


don't jump the gun..i recall a certain 'locked up tight' case in alaska involving corruption, a public official, etc that ended with a not guilty verdict and exposure of corruption in the fbi officials in the case.
i bet if this were involving dems, your line would be to remember that everyone is innocent til proven guilty. your hard on for all things wisconsin shows your bias.

Riot 09-17-2011 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 807305)
don't jump the gun.

You'll notice I haven't. Read my posts. Like where I said this, specifically distancing Walker from the acts of his campaign staff and defending him:

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No Dell, I hope that anyone that broke the law is brought to justice. Walker's campaign (not necessarily Walker) apparently has a real problem, with felony convictions already resulting and other people being investigated.
Unlike the Walker defenders here, who have proclaimed innocence of all things Wisconsin before verdicts, I've always said "we'll see" what happens. Repeating the accusations and allegations isn't saying guilty.

The facts are two felony convictions (not accusations) already out of this investigation of Walkers' campaign, he had to retain a lawyer for the campaign prior to his election, the ongoing investigation was buried before Walker's election, and the FBI is still assisting with the ongoing investigation.

Yeah, that's significant.

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i bet if this were involving dems, your line would be to remember that everyone is innocent til proven guilty. your hard on for all things wisconsin shows your bias
LOL - My line for Wisconsin - re-read my posts as the words are right there - has always been innocent until proven guilty. My "hard on" for all things Wisconsin extends to all things Ohio, Michigan, and Florida, too. Everywhere where ALEC, the Koch Brothers, and the Republican Governors Association have deliberately and systematically set about dismantling unions, scapegoating public service workers, taking voter rights away, and dismantling worker protections. I think Gov. Walker is terrible for Wisconsin, he's proven himself terrible and a liar already, and he deserves intense scrutiny as do any public officials.

You are free to scrutinize any public officials whose behaviour you do not like.

Riot 09-17-2011 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 807292)
:eek::eek::tro:

You may simply be bat crazy.

No, I don't want the bat crazy extremists to win Republican primaries and advance to generals. I want normal Republican candidates. Not the Evangelical Right, the Moral Majority, The John Birch Society, The Tea Baggers, the Dominionists. All one and the same. Thus I maintain my lifelong Republican registration to vote in those primaries.

horseofcourse 09-18-2011 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 807292)
:eek::eek::tro:

You may simply be bat crazy.

I'm a full fledged socialist, where do I rank on the crazy meter?? Should I be committed to an institution?

Cannon Shell 09-18-2011 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 807480)
I'm a full fledged socialist, where do I rank on the crazy meter?? Should I be committed to an institution?

Guantanamo Bay or Jacobs field. You make the call.


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