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Old 08-26-2011, 07:16 AM
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i think i misplaced a comma in what you quoted. i meant it to say you can't make a blanket statement, but in this case, obviously jobs would be killed. that the union is in the wrong.
But you can make a blanket statement because most unions would rather kill non-union jobs if given the opportunity. Like politicians their own survival is more important to them than common good. Hey I understand why they are taking that position but it doesn't mean I agree with it or condone it.
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Old 08-26-2011, 07:21 AM
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But you can make a blanket statement because most unions would rather kill non-union jobs if given the opportunity. Like politicians their own survival is more important to them than common good. Hey I understand why they are taking that position but it doesn't mean I agree with it or condone it.
yeah, i think they would. but if they all wouldn't all the time, that's where i say you can't make a blanket statement...we all know how pesky saying all, or none, or always can be.
what i don't get is a situation like the teachers the other day(in wi, or mi?), who voted to keep their current scheme in place, rather than pay extra for their retirement-which mean some of their laid off fellow teachers would remain laid off. that can't be what the union wanted-laid off union members don't pay dues!
now, why do they want teachers to pay a portion of their retirement? because the pension system in place is becoming untenable, much like with the usps, uaw, etc, etc. another example of people going broke, when small changes can be made now, to avoid big problems later. the teachers were unwilling to do so, so the pain is felt by their former fellow teachers, who are now unemployed. way to take care of their union brothers.
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