Frankel

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

IF, and these are big ifs, granted, but if Mo had no physical issues and took to grass as well as dirt, I'd say there's no freaking way on Earth Frankel destroys him.

In fact, based on what I've seen from Frankel, it's likely if those two faced each other going a mile on turf (again, Mo would have to be the same horse he was), Mo would run Frankel into submission.

Yeah, sure, if Frankel got 2 going 48.3, he would be tough, but if they went head to head in a quick pace duel, Frankel wouldn't finish in the same zip code.

You should go watch Frankel's previous race. That race is very telling, and unlike most people, I think making the jockey the scapegoat for that performance is ridiculous.

You are admittedly someone who doesn't wager on racing anymore and whose opinions are based primarily on progeny of Indian Charlie, Indian Charlie himself and your friend who owns Lubash. Your thinking is so one-dimensional when it comes to any of those topics that it's futile to even dispute it.

I am quite familiar with Frankel's last race. Maintaining an understanding of how races are run is essential. Turf routes, especially over demanding ground like what they routinely traverse in Europe are rarely won by horses who make decisive moves over a half-mile out. Have you watched Frankel's race at Newmarket? How you could watch that and think there's even a chance in hell that "Uncle Mo could run Frankel into submission" is baffling.

I've never called Frankel one of the best...of anything. He is simply a VERY good horse who has passed every test with flying colors. It's obvious that he's developing steadily and has a turn of foot that makes him very tough to beat when he has a tactical advantage. Comparing him to a dirt horse who is currently laid up, was a horrible 3rd in his only graded stakes try of 2011, and is trying to regain 2YO form is silly.

You know what's funny and few are bringing it up. Overdriven's first two starts have been just as good if not better than Uncle Mo's and he has faced MUCH better horses.