Frankel

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I can think of others as well, based on what I've seen, that I think would have beaten Frankel.

Hell, a totally healthy Uncle Mo, if he was equally capable on grass (I know, I know, he's likely done), I think Frankel would have had a big disadvantage going against a horse with Mo's ability and style.

How on Earth could Frankel possibly have handled Dubai Millenium?

I don't like how Frankel has essentially "snuck" his way into the pantheon of greatness, after spending most of this season ducking major races (Epsom Derby, Eclipse, etc.), failing to display stamina of any sort, and showing the obvious limitations to his unbridled running style, simply by mauling Canford Cliffs in a 4-horse field.

This was a horse that was essentially conceded the Epsom Derby after his Dewhurst win at 2. Funny that his connections didn't even make the attempt.

Yeah, Henry Cecil knows a great horse when he sees one. He also knows a very limited horse when he sees one.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I don't like how Frankel has essentially "snuck" his way into the pantheon of greatness, after spending most of this season ducking major races (Epsom Derby, Eclipse, etc.), failing to display stamina of any sort, and showing the obvious limitations to his unbridled running style, simply by mauling Canford Cliffs in a 4-horse field.

This was a horse that was essentially conceded the Epsom Derby after his Dewhurst win at 2. Funny that his connections didn't even make the attempt.

Yeah, Henry Cecil knows a great horse when he sees one. He also knows a very limited horse when he sees one.

Didn't Cecil state earlier in the year the he had designs of the Arc/10-12f est. later in the campaign?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Didn't Cecil state earlier in the year the he had designs of the Arc/10-12f est. later in the campaign?

I guess that was before he came to the realization that it was going to be very difficult to harness Frankel's speed. I'm just disappointed that he won't even take a shot, even at 10f, instead mapping out an exclusively 8f campaign. It's starting to sound more or more like keeping him unbeaten and maintaining the illusion of invincibility is what matters most to his connections. He's by f'n Galileo for Christ's sake.

Frankel is entered in the Juddmonte International at around 9.5f, so I suppose there's still a chance. But they've moved the 8f Queen Elizabeth II to the same day as the 10f Champion Stakes, so I don't anticipate seeing him stretch out in October.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I guess that was before he came to the realization that it was going to be very difficult to harness Frankel's speed. I'm just disappointed that he won't even take a shot, even at 10f, instead mapping out an exclusively 8f campaign. It's starting to sound more or more like keeping him unbeaten and maintaining the illusion of invincibility is what matters most to his connections. He's by f'n Galileo for Christ's sake.

Frankel is entered in the Juddmonte International at around 9.5f, so I suppose there's still a chance. But they've moved the 8f Queen Elizabeth II to the same day as the 10f Champion Stakes, so I don't anticipate seeing him stretch out in October.

Send him to Shug he could throttle back that speed in a flash