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07-29-2011, 07:45 PM
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King Glorious is right on here. He's a brilliant miler, maybe one of the best in recent memory but in order to go down as one of the best he will have to win a race like the Irish Champions Stakes or the Juddmonte International both at 10 Furlongs. I think asking him to win the Arc may be a bit much for a horse with his speed. I'm sure if they cut him back to sprint distances, he would win any Group 1 at that distance as well.
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07-29-2011, 10:01 PM
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07-29-2011, 10:38 PM
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Especially on this forum. Even though I'm often wrong, as is everyone else, when I am right, people on here are afraid to say so for fear it would get them in trouble with the mean girls.
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07-30-2011, 12:23 AM
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Ah, now you've martyred yourself.
Awesome.
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07-30-2011, 01:10 AM
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Isn't Frankel the horse that nearly got rundown by Zoffany a few weeks ago?
He did pound the hell out of Canford Cliffs, though. A horse that is slightly better than Rip Van Winkle. They probably should have tossed in a pacemaker for him. All the "great" milers, from Brigadier Gerard to Miesque to Goldikova ventured out for an extra furlong or two during their campaigns. When's he going to do something like that? Likely never, as nowadays they have those "new" Group 1s like the Queen Anne and Lockinge Stakes to shoot for. Next year I predict: the Euro version of Zenyatta. Frankel clearly has chinks in his armor. Sea The Stars would have leveled him at any distance (as he did RVW and current staying sensation Fame And Glory). Of course, he'd have only gotten the chance to do it at 8f.
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07-30-2011, 01:54 AM
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Hell, a totally healthy Uncle Mo, if he was equally capable on grass (I know, I know, he's likely done), I think Frankel would have had a big disadvantage going against a horse with Mo's ability and style. How on Earth could Frankel possibly have handled Dubai Millenium?
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07-30-2011, 02:55 AM
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This was a horse that was essentially conceded the Epsom Derby after his Dewhurst win at 2. Funny that his connections didn't even make the attempt. Yeah, Henry Cecil knows a great horse when he sees one. He also knows a very limited horse when he sees one.
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07-30-2011, 10:16 AM
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07-31-2011, 11:28 AM
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Hell I wonder if Frankel could handle Hawk Wing or Dubai Destination.
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07-30-2011, 12:46 PM
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07-30-2011, 12:51 PM
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Oh wait, he had Goldi for 2010, and Zen in 2008 and 2009. I guess Curlin in 07?
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07-30-2011, 12:52 PM
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Count me in with the group that doesn't think Overdriven has been as impressive as Uncle Mo was, but Overdriven is pretty good.
I also think very highly of Frankel, but I truly do not understand the need to label horses immediately after a performance. I get it that this is how the world is now, the internet has enabled EVERYONE to have an opinion on EVERYTHING, and people are prone to throw outlandish comments out to try and compenate for something. But best miler ever? Really? One more jump 2 back and he gets beat, rider error or not. Maybe eventually he'll run his way to some sort of best ever label, but let's see him do it.
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