Michelle Bachmann

Antitrust32 · #1 07-12-2011, 02:53 PM

then you get into the whole mind, body and spirit (soul) debate.

i feel most people believe we have a spirit that goes on and on.

but what is it made of and where does it go? where did it come from?

I personally think that your soul is the same as your mind and body and that all three go kaput the day your heart stops beating.

also....

is there more meaning to life on Earth if there IS an afterlife, or if there is NOT an afterlife? wouldnt what you do on earth be more important if it was the end all, not everlasting?

so many interesting questions and answers. I love hearing about other people's beliefs.

joeydb · #2 07-12-2011, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

then you get into the whole mind, body and spirit (soul) debate.

i feel most people believe we have a spirit that goes on and on.

but what is it made of and where does it go? where did it come from?

I personally think that your soul is the same as your mind and body and that all three go kaput the day your heart stops beating.

also....

is there more meaning to life on Earth if there IS an afterlife, or if there is NOT an afterlife? wouldnt what you do on earth be more important if it was the end all, not everlasting?

so many interesting questions and answers. I love hearing about other people's beliefs.

I agree. It is a fascinating subject, because the question itself encompasses everything we know (and don't know) about what may or may not come next.

It deserves its own thread.

Antitrust32 · #3 07-12-2011, 03:01 PM

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I agree. It is a fascinating subject, because the question itself encompasses everything we know (and don't know) about what may or may not come next.

It deserves its own thread.

i agree... the one thing, as it related to Michelle Bachmann, is that I do not want my political leaders to base their policies off beliefs in higher powers. Because there are no right or wrong answers, and look how much bad has come of religious based policy - "God willed me to do it" -crusades

jms62 · #4 07-12-2011, 02:59 PM

"Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers. It tells people to go out and stick their noses in other people's business. I live by the golden rule: Treat others as you'd want them to treat you. The religious right wants to tell people how to live."

Jesse Ventura
Interview in Playboy (November 1999)

Antitrust32 · #5 07-12-2011, 03:05 PM

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"Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers. It tells people to go out and stick their noses in other people's business. I live by the golden rule: Treat others as you'd want them to treat you. The religious right wants to tell people how to live."

Jesse Ventura
Interview in Playboy (November 1999)

I agree with this when focusing only on the religious right (which I think is just a very very minor part of religion).

but as far as organized religion in general... I think it has more to do with not wanting to deal with your own mortality than it does wanting to tell others how to live. People dont want to die and be done, with heaven, you get a different option. It's comforting.

joeydb · #6 07-12-2011, 03:05 PM

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"Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers. It tells people to go out and stick their noses in other people's business. I live by the golden rule: Treat others as you'd want them to treat you. The religious right wants to tell people how to live."

Jesse Ventura
Interview in Playboy (November 1999)

Mr. Ventura would be surprised to see that his golden rule is word for word translated from Matthew 7:12.

It can be a crutch for those who choose to be weak-minded, but those who choose to contemplate the big questions and things that are infinite by definition are normally open minded.

jms62 · #7 07-12-2011, 03:09 PM

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Mr. Ventura would be surprised to see that his golden rule is word for word translated from Matthew 7:12.

It can be a crutch for those who choose to be weak-minded, but those who choose to contemplate the big questions and things that are infinite by definition are normally open minded.

Do you fancy yourself as open minded?

Antitrust32 · #8 07-12-2011, 03:11 PM

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Do you fancy yourself as open minded?

I think he is on the subject of religion. some people freak out at the questions I was asking... he seemed to be answering them with an open mind.

joeydb · #9 07-12-2011, 03:13 PM

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I think he is on the subject of religion. some people freak out at the questions I was asking... he seemed to be answering them with an open mind.

I do try to be. Of course like many here, on the subject of politics I tend to have made my mind up with what I have observed so far in life. I do reserve the right to change my opinions as my conclusions and experiences change.

somerfrost · #10 07-12-2011, 04:43 PM

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I do try to be. Of course like many here, on the subject of politics I tend to have made my mind up with what I have observed so far in life. I do reserve the right to change my opinions as my conclusions and experiences change.

I find that very revealing and truthful, in the end we are all products of our life's experiences. I know my rather extreme political positions come from my own experiences. A person who has firm religious beliefs yet is able to remain open to the beliefs of others is someone that I, for one, respect.

jms62 · #11 07-12-2011, 03:14 PM

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I think he is on the subject of religion. some people freak out at the questions I was asking... he seemed to be answering them with an open mind.

Gotcha... I wish this Almighty God would talk to Player_Player about the folly of betting 2 favorites Win/Place. How many 8.00 bets that bring back 3.60 will it take

Antitrust32 · #12 07-12-2011, 03:21 PM

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Gotcha... I wish this Almighty God would talk to Player_Player about the folly of betting 2 favorites Win/Place. How many 8.00 bets that bring back 3.60 will it take

lol... he really does that??

Danzig · #13 07-12-2011, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62

"Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers. It tells people to go out and stick their noses in other people's business. I live by the golden rule: Treat others as you'd want them to treat you. The religious right wants to tell people how to live."

Jesse Ventura
Interview in Playboy (November 1999)

that's how i raised my kids. so many 'christians' are some of the most hateful, judgemental, bigoted people you'd ever see. it's amazing.