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Old 05-24-2011, 04:10 PM
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Stayers in a comfortable rythym that aren't draining the red blood cell/oxygen reserves stored in the liver because they haven't been stressed, can keep going a long time... longer than their pedigrees 'say' they can.
It's actually the spleen that stores red blood cells in the horse. As for the stress component, remember that Shackleford was a handful going to the gate at Pimlico and from what I've read is typically a "hot-blooded" horse.
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Old 05-24-2011, 05:37 PM
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It's actually the spleen that stores red blood cells in the horse. As for the stress component, remember that Shackleford was a handful going to the gate at Pimlico and from what I've read is typically a "hot-blooded" horse.
Can you give horses beta blockers to calm them down?
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Old 05-24-2011, 07:07 PM
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It's actually the spleen that stores red blood cells in the horse. As for the stress component, remember that Shackleford was a handful going to the gate at Pimlico and from what I've read is typically a "hot-blooded" horse.
Excuse me. Spleen. Thx RT.. Fascinating topic regarding pre-race v. in-race 'anxiety'... Not sure pre-race eagerness/tension necessarily precludes a 'run-off' mentality or lactic acid build-up. I sent Allday an article regarding stamina/blood cell distribution in advance of next week because I love this question as a discussion point.
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Old 05-24-2011, 08:00 PM
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Excuse me. Spleen. Thx RT.. Fascinating topic regarding pre-race v. in-race 'anxiety'... Not sure pre-race eagerness/tension necessarily precludes a 'run-off' mentality or lactic acid build-up. I sent Allday an article regarding stamina/blood cell distribution in advance of next week because I love this question as a discussion point.
This will be a very interesting segment. There is so much made of pre-race antics it would be great to have Allday's perspective.

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Old 05-24-2011, 09:04 PM
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I said to a friend before the race that Shackleford looked like DaTara, a sweaty mess before his Belmont win. It doesn't help I said this 30 seconds before the race. Point being, this same person turned to me as the horses loaded in for the 2008 Belmont and said "DaTara looks like a longshot to get five furlongs."

That was when I learned that prerace appearances don't always tell the story.
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Old 05-24-2011, 10:02 PM
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don't know but heard there was another horse that used to get worked up before races... think his name was Seattle Slew
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Old 05-24-2011, 10:07 PM
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Don't Storm Cats gets notoriously lathered up before races? Forestry's by Storm Cat.
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Old 05-24-2011, 10:56 PM
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"you ever see a spleen that large?"
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Old 05-27-2011, 07:39 PM
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I said to a friend before the race that Shackleford looked like DaTara, a sweaty mess before his Belmont win. It doesn't help I said this 30 seconds before the race. Point being, this same person turned to me as the horses loaded in for the 2008 Belmont and said "DaTara looks like a longshot to get five furlongs."

That was when I learned that prerace appearances don't always tell the story.
It certainly happens, that a washed out horse does run good at times. But i would rather toss em most of the time.
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Old 05-25-2011, 08:39 AM
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Fascinating topic regarding pre-race v. in-race 'anxiety'... Not sure pre-race eagerness/tension necessarily precludes a 'run-off' mentality or lactic acid build-up. I sent Allday an article regarding stamina/blood cell distribution in advance of next week because I love this question as a discussion point.
Looking forward to it. Of course, when it all comes down to it, the pre-Preakness antics of Shackleford, and the various interpretations of them, only illustrate that there are no hard and fast rules in this game. From my handy DRF pocket guide to wagering and winning:

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Note any horses that appear agitated or very nervous or sweaty. These horses may not be at peak performance levels.
Then again, they may be.
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