Updated Derby Chances - Prep Recap

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Mawhip

Lehman Brothers is not hiring but I left before the collapse so it didn't really effect me other than the fact that I sold all my stock before it tanked.

I would befriend anyone on Facebook. Don't flatter yourself.

A-F-F-E-C-T

[Mawhip]

Originally Posted by justindew

A-F-F-E-C-T

Thanks. What would I do without you.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Mawhip

Thanks. What would I do without you.

You would forget to put a question mark on the end of questions.

[Mawhip]

Originally Posted by Rare Bog

Not sure where you went to school.... but in your haste to prove another poster's stupidity you have placed a dunce cap on your own head.

E-F-F-E-C-T is not only grammatically appropriate in that instance, but is also almost always grammatically correct when describing a consequence (and seeing that almost every event is a consequence of some other event, this word is rarely misused and hardly ever incorrect). In this case Mawhip is describing the consequence of his leaving Lehman Brothers (he got rich on stock options).

A-F-F-E-C-T is only appropriate when someone's feelings have been triggered (such as: leaving Lehman Brothers affected him so deeply that he committed suicide). Could Mawhip have used "affect" in this instance? Sure... it would work. Does the fact the he could have used it make your correction valid? No.

You should feel like a moron.

However, in your defense Mawhip did say "effect me" when he should have more properly stated "had the effect of". Perhaps: Lehman Brothers is not hiring, but I left before the collapse and sold all my stock before it tanked, which had the effect of generating enormous wealth for my family.

All grammer aside, I was just responding to the attempted lowball thrown by Drugs. But like so often with Drugs, he was wrong. He just tries to look smart after the fact as was the case with the Archarcharch overlay. Had he been so smart, he would have told us this BEFORE the race.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Mawhip

Had he been so smart, he would have told us this BEFORE the race.

And why would I care to do that?

Think hard, dumbfucl<

[Mawhip]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

And why would I care to do that?

Think hard, dumbfucl<

You can't possibly be inferring that it will effect or affect the price. Please don't be telling me that. If so, that is very sad.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Mawhip

You can't possibly be inferring that it will effect or affect the price. Please don't be telling me that.

You have to be able to forecast the odds correctly to determine that.

Had I posted "a pick" before the race .... I would have "picked" Elite Alex (who was 8/1 on the ML) versus Archarcharch (who was 12/1 on the ML)

That's really not even the reason why I don't bother posting picks .... it's because of the ankle-biting I put up with afterwards when one of them losses.

[Mawhip]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You have to be able to forecast the odds correctly to determine that.

Had I posted "a pick" before the race .... I would have "picked" Elite Alex (who was 8/1 on the ML) versus Archarcharch (who was 12/1 on the ML)

That's really not even the reason why I don't bother posting picks .... it's because of the ankle-biting I put up with afterwards when one of them losses.

I see. You don't offer these words of wisdom because you don't know the odds. I'm assuming then you are too busy with 25 minutes to post to come on here and state your opinions before the race yet you have the time to find a chart from the 1896 Gazelle Stakes and cut and paste that to show how clever you are.

Come on Drugs. Don't you think you will be criticsized more for your rampant redboarding than being wrong. Everybody is wrong.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Mawhip

I see. You don't offer these words of wisdom because you don't know the odds. I'm assuming then you are too busy with 25 minutes to post to come on here and state your opinions before the race yet you have the time to find a chart from the 1896 Gazelle Stakes and cut and paste that to show how clever you are.

Unlike Lehman Brothers - I don't get paid one cent to post here. I do it for my own pleasure.

I post that type of stuff early in the morning or on Monday's and Tuesday's - if you haven't noticed.

Here's an old story I read though ....

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You have to be able to forecast the odds correctly to determine that.

Had I posted "a pick" before the race .... I would have "picked" Elite Alex (who was 8/1 on the ML) versus Archarcharch (who was 12/1 on the ML)

That's really not even the reason why I don't bother posting picks .... it's because of the ankle-biting I put up with afterwards when one of them losses.

Did you mean loses?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Rare Bog

Low priced underlays win more than their rightful proportion of races

No they don't.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Rare Bog

Not sure where you went to school.... but in your haste to prove another poster's stupidity you have placed a dunce cap on your own head.

E-F-F-E-C-T is not only grammatically appropriate in that instance, but is also almost always grammatically correct when describing a consequence (and seeing that almost every event is a consequence of some other event, this word is rarely misused and hardly ever incorrect). In this case Mawhip is describing the consequence of his leaving Lehman Brothers (he got rich on stock options).

A-F-F-E-C-T is only appropriate when someone's feelings have been triggered (such as: leaving Lehman Brothers affected him so deeply that he committed suicide). Could Mawhip have used "affect" in this instance? Sure... it would work. Does the fact the he could have used it make your correction valid? No.

You should feel like a moron.

However, in your defense Mawhip did say "effect me" when he should have more properly stated "had the effect of". Perhaps: Lehman Brothers is not hiring, but I left before the collapse and sold all my stock before it tanked, which had the effect of generating enormous wealth for my family.

http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com...us-effect.aspx

I'm right.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by justindew

http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com...us-effect.aspx

I'm right.

Who cares?

The whole purpose of the post was as follows....

Originally Posted by Rare Bog

generating enormous wealth for my family.

Tell me you knew?

[DaTruth]

DrugS gave us Vale of York before the BC Juvenile. Folks, there is no need to get greedy.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

DrugS gave us Vale of York before the BC Juvenile. Folks, there is no need to get greedy.

And talked about Furthest Land being a great play.

He at the very least talks about why horses are good plays / bad plays with details.

[dalakhani]

Justin is right. Although, that was a pretty slick reversal attempt by rare bog. Kudos.

Why does "affect" have to be in regards to feeling? That is pretty funny.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Justin is right.

Don't ever say that again.

Don't even think it.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Don't ever say that again.

Don't even think it.

I'm not sure it's so bad to give him credit on proper grammar as long as his math skills go right on being terrible.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

I'm not sure it's so bad to give him credit on proper grammar as long as his math skills go right on being terrible.

What are you talking about?

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by justindew

What are you talking about?

You might want to read back on the thread, unless you missed the reason the link to the online calculator was posted. 25/1 odds = a 4% chance. You corrected it to 24/1 odds which is 4.17% rounded. The fact that you thought it was 24 to 1 means you did the math in your head. That you made the mistake happens to anybody. You knew there was a 4 in there somewhere. That you corrected someone else who got it right is the reason that I got annoyed. 1/25 = 4/100

Your situation on the affect/effect argument was basically a reversal of the odds thing. You knew the proper way to do it, someone tried to correct you, but they were wrong. You even spent time looking it up and providing sources. I just found it ironic. Alanis Morissette probably didn't as she improperly identified "irony" in a very catchy song to millions of teenagers. The point about your math skills I just made was a joke about how understanding of basic fractions is probably important when betting. 25/1, as I'm sure you know, means you'll get more money than you would if the horse was 24/1. That's all I'm saying.

While we're grammar griping, it always bugs me when people say things like "Joe and I" trying to sound sophisticated when "Joe and me" can be correct depending on the rest of the sentence.