Is racing doing this right?

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by freddymo

You can't expand a sport on a shiiitty base. Fix the sport and the bettors will come

But what exactly does that mean?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

But what exactly does that mean?

there is too much racing and a lot of crappy races that will never interest gamblers unless the rake was so low that expertise would be worthwhile. No national voice or direction is really something that needs to change.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by freddymo

there is too much racing and a lot of crappy races that will never interest gamblers unless the rake was so low that expertise would be worthwhile. No national voice or direction is really something that needs to change.

I don't disagree with you Freddy, especially with the lack of a national governing body/voice.

As far as too many races go, yeah you are probably right. In some cases less is definitely more (monmouth being a prime example). But not everybody is looking for the ideal (in terms of good racing and betting) situations to wager. I always think back to when I went to NYC OTB's to watch races and think that many people just want the action and don't care what type of horses and races are going off. They were playing whether there was 3 horses in the gate or 13 and couldn't care if it was a 2k claimer or a 5 million dollar Graded Stake. To limit the amount of tracks/races and actual racing days could also hurt the sport by forcing gamblers to put their money in other betting venues on days where there are very limited places to bet horses. That wouldn't be good for the game either.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I don't disagree with you Freddy, especially with the lack of a national governing body/voice.

As far as too many races go, yeah you are probably right. In some cases less is definitely more (monmouth being a prime example). But not everybody is looking for the ideal (in terms of good racing and betting) situations to wager. I always think back to when I went to NYC OTB's to watch races and think that many people just want the action and don't care what type of horses and races are going off. They were playing whether there was 3 horses in the gate or 13 and couldn't care if it was a 2k claimer or a 5 million dollar Graded Stake. To limit the amount of tracks/races and actual racing days could also hurt the sport by forcing gamblers to put their money in other betting venues on days where there are very limited places to bet horses. That wouldn't be good for the game either.

I have spent many an hour at OTB on 38thst, Water st, etc. I think finding compulsive gamblers is something racing will always be good at.

finding new players will come only when the game is interesting

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I have spent many an hour at OTB on 38thst, Water st, etc. I think finding compulsive gamblers is something racing will always be good at.

finding new players will come only when the game is interesting

Brings us back to what I think is the biggest problem plauging the game.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I don't disagree with you Freddy, especially with the lack of a national governing body/voice.

As far as too many races go, yeah you are probably right. In some cases less is definitely more (monmouth being a prime example). But not everybody is looking for the ideal (in terms of good racing and betting) situations to wager. I always think back to when I went to NYC OTB's to watch races and think that many people just want the action and don't care what type of horses and races are going off. They were playing whether there was 3 horses in the gate or 13 and couldn't care if it was a 2k claimer or a 5 million dollar Graded Stake. To limit the amount of tracks/races and actual racing days could also hurt the sport by forcing gamblers to put their money in other betting venues on days where there are very limited places to bet horses. That wouldn't be good for the game either.

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