Oh no...it'll never happen?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Easy, the fact the government is forcing the healthy and fit to pay for the unhealthy and obese disguised as mandatory coverage and subsidization. Next?

Right now, and for the past several decades, the healthy and fit pay for the unhealthy and obese. This will decrease those costs. GASP!

"Disguised as mandatory coverage and subsidization" that makes no sense. You'll have to use the Dell Detranslator to rephrase what you are trying to say.

I suppose you don't know that there is, specifically and deliberately written into the bill, zero ability to collect any penalty for not purchasing insurance.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I suppose you don't know that there is, specifically and deliberately written into the bill, zero ability to collect any penalty for not purchasing insurance.

Then we're all good. But I think you're wrong as usual.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Not really any differently than they are today via Medicaid. The bill expands Medicaid availability to those earning up to 133% of the federal poverty level.

What is your view on a worthless unemployed person not looking for a job getting another handout? Do you think it's fair to all of the working people and the unemployed people who are actually trying to find work? Also I am curious what the premiums are going to be. Im just glad I won't be using that worthless insurance.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

What is your view on a worthless unemployed person not looking for a job getting another handout? Do you think it's fair to all of the working people and the unemployed people who are actually trying to find work? Also I am curious what the premiums are going to be. Im just glad I won't be using that worthless insurance.

How about a worthless person stealing our money by collecting a government pension??? Why should the government still be paying pensions when nearly every company has done away with them and switched to 401-K?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

What is your view on a worthless unemployed person not looking for a job getting another handout?.

Easy, she doesn't believe there is such a thing. Or they are so rare they need to be cared for and protected as any other endangered animal.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

How about a worthless person stealing our money by collecting a government pension??? Why should the government still be paying pensions when nearly every company has done away with them and switched to 401-K?

Im in agreement with you on that also. It's a bunch of BS that stuff like that happens.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Easy, she doesn't believe there is such a thing. Or they are so rare they need to be cared for and protected as any other endangered animal.

At least now unemployed people have to pay taxes on thier unemployment benefits from what I hear.

[AeWingnut]

got the glamore shots in the mail
thanks

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Then we're all good. But I think you're wrong as usual.

Says the man too lazy, over months, to even read a newspaper article or two and learn the big bullet points of what he's talking about.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

At least now unemployed people have to pay taxes on thier unemployment benefits from what I hear.

People have paid taxes on their unemployment benefits for years. Not new. The taxes can be withheld.

[Princess Doreen]

New game in town -

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

What is your view on a worthless unemployed person not looking for a job getting another handout? Do you think it's fair to all of the working people and the unemployed people who are actually trying to find work? Also I am curious what the premiums are going to be. Im just glad I won't be using that worthless insurance.

Do you get government VA healthcare as a result of your military service? A government pension?

(and if you do, I think you deserve every penny, and more, for serving our country)

What would you say to giving up, say, half of those benefits? Because we're broke.

I think there certainly are "worthless unemployed not looking for a job but rather for a handout", but they are not much more than the usual small baseline minority present even in a thriving economy.

We could shoot them in the street, if only we could identify them. Maybe you could come up with a way? I mean, other than what the programs do now to try and identify them?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

New game in town -

All the things to purchase are the Republican corporate interest partners, any entitlement stuff is supposed to be Democratic?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Says the man too lazy, over months, to even read a newspaper article or two and learn the big bullet points of what he's talking about.

Says the woman who thinks an American has the same risk of being a terrorist as a Saudi, boarding a plane. You were right once in the last 5 years. Obama does 'get it' just as Carter did.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Do you get government VA healthcare as a result of your military service? A government pension?

Do you value the service of military troops equal to Fed court security guards (aka Marshalls)?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Says the woman who thinks an American has the same risk of being a terrorist as a Saudi, boarding a plane..

No I don't. Geesh, Dell, you'd think that after a couple years in this room, you'd pay some small bit of attention and have a clue. You don't. You don't even know enough to be able to argue your own side of an issue effectively

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Do you get government VA healthcare as a result of your military service? A government pension?

(and if you do, I think you deserve every penny, and more, for serving our country)

What would you say to giving up, say, half of those benefits? Because we're broke.

I think there certainly are "worthless unemployed not looking for a job but rather for a handout", but they are not much more than the usual small baseline minority present even in a thriving economy.

We could shoot them in the street, if only we could identify them. Maybe you could come up with a way? I mean, other than what the programs do now to try and identify them?

I dont use the VA healthcare. I would rather let a person who got discharged because of something happening to them in Iraq use the VA healthcare. Yes I do get a pension. We are in agreement that I earned it. The government could take away the VA healthcare and it won't hurt me. It has been over two years since the last time I went to the VA.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

New game in town -

Maybe I could get this next year for Xmas. Maybe I could use the middle as a dartboard.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by jms62

How about a worthless person stealing our money by collecting a government pension??? Why should the government still be paying pensions when nearly every company has done away with them and switched to 401-K?

There is something so incredibly rich about this comment and how it went over.

Well done, jms.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

There is something so incredibly rich about this comment and how it went over.

Well done, jms.

I was waiting for someone to catch it.