The new party of no?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

No, but those are mostly middle class people that you're wanting to take something away from. That's a pretty regular target for you. If people ever paid much attention, they'd see that Republicans have routine targets (poor people, and middle class people.)

I'm targeting bloated government workers. An government accountant can take a 20% pay cut and still be middle class. The janitor may be a different story by call me stupid, I don't think a janitor should be making 60K plus with a pension. Especially because we're paying for it. Should some rich guy or company value a janitor so much they want to pay him that (must be special) good for them as it's their money. Get it now?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I'm targeting bloated government workers.

I'm saying that these just happen to be your normal targets (middle class people.)You didn't start out talking about a janitor. You started out talking about the average Federal Gov't worker. Now you have to switch to the least liked position (janitor,) but you don't just want to lower their pay. You want to hurt a large group of middle class people. You want to balance the budget by hurting middle class people. Like I said, any plan you have will target poor and middle class people. That's your routine choice of target.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I'm targeting bloated government workers. An government accountant can take a 20% pay cut and still be middle class. The janitor may be a different story by call me stupid, I don't think a janitor should be making 60K plus with a pension. Especially because we're paying for it. Should some rich guy or company value a janitor so much they want to pay him that (must be special) good for them as it's their money. Get it now?

Then why are you so angry at the Republican proposal for salary freezes for those "bloated" government employees as proposed by Obama?

Yes, that's a GOP idea, and Obama came out with it himself yesterday, angering the GOP.

BTW, Senators and Congressmen make $174,000 per year (excluding bennies), and they froze their salaries earlier this year.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Then why are you so angry at the Republican proposal for salary freezes for those "bloated" government employees as proposed by Obama?

Yes, that's a GOP idea, and Obama came out with it himself yesterday, angering the GOP.

BTW, Senators and Congressmen make $174,000 per year (excluding bennies), and they froze their salaries earlier this year.

Because it's like spending $10 per gallon of gas and expected to be pleased when you're told it's going to stay at $10 and not go any higher.

The GOP sucks for the idea as much as Obama does for announcing it. See I don't goose step to the GOP like you do for DEMS.

As far as Congressmen and Senators go, they are among the few government employees who are underpaid compared to the private sector as I'm fairly sure a good number of them (minus the obvious ie Waters, Rangel, Frank) would and could make double their current salaries.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Because it's like spending $10 per gallon of gas and expected to be pleased when you're told it's going to stay at $10 and not go any higher.

The GOP sucks for the idea as much as Obama does for announcing it. See I don't goose step to the GOP like you do for DEMS.

As far as Congressmen and Senators go, they are among the few government employees who are underpaid compared to the private sector as I'm fairly sure a good number of them (minus the obvious ie Waters, Rangel, Frank) would and could make double their current salaries.

Geeshus, Dell - your own budget cuts that you posted here - which is a cut here, a cut there - are a billion here and there in amount. You can't be so hypocritical to be angry at the politicians for doing just what you recommended!? And you think politicians are underpaid, and the regular workers are overpaid?

So mostly you are just angry and ranting and logic isn't figuring into it. Got it.

See I don't goose step to the GOP like you do for DEMS.

Huh? Okay - you are officially considered whacky and bizarre. Your statement makes no sense at all, I attributed the idea to the GOP and said Obama took it from them.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Geeshus, Dell - your own budget cuts that you posted here - which is a cut here, a cut there - are a billion here and there in amount. You can't be so hypocritical to be angry at the politicians for doing just what you recommended!? And you think politicians are underpaid, and the regular workers are overpaid?.

I recommend CUTTING their salaries by 20% and their benefits by 75% to simply bring them in line with the public. Freezing their salaries at their present levels is a joke!

Politicians (Senators and Congressmen) are government employees and from jobs and careers (like I said most cases) that pay more than their government salaries so yes I think they may be the few, Supreme Court Justices (maybe not the teacher) also fit that bill.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I recommend CUTTING their salaries by 20% and their benefits by 75% to simply bring them in line with the public. Freezing their salaries at their present levels is a joke!.

Are you for or against giving those making $250K a year a new tax cut equal to the expiring cuts. Yes or no?

A joke? Sounds good ranting on a website, but there is a real world. These are not imaginary people. Cutting someones salary by 20%, and taking away 75% their health care and pension is a big, big deal. And absolutely the wrong thing to do during a recession, btw. As is not renewing unemployment.

Seems basic Eco 101 policy realities are taking a back seat to disproven trickle-down fantasy nowadays.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Are you for or against giving those making $250K a year a new tax cut equal to the expiring cuts. Yes or no?
A joke? Sounds good ranting on a website, but there is a real world. These are not imaginary people. Cutting someones salary by 20%, and taking away 75% their health care and pension is a big, big deal. And absolutely the wrong thing to do during a recession, btw. As is not renewing unemployment.

Seems basic Eco 101 policy realities are taking a back seat to disproven trickle-down fantasy nowadays.

Yes if at the same time Dems find cuts of equal value.
Bi-Partisan and a win-win!


Get this clear reducing Federal salaries and beni's by 20 and 75 percent respectively only make them equal to the people paying their salaries. No one loses a job. It's the fair and the right thing to do especially in a recession.


BTW I value the work of a single soldier more than I do the entire cleaning and security staff working and securing the Dirkson Federal Building this evening so I can't even compare the two jobs. Sorry.