What to do now

Riot · #1 11-23-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

I think that must be what Obama is thinking about as well.....

"There are myriad actions the U.S. is discussing with allies, including action at the United Nations Security Council and further sanctions. No decisions have been made yet, the consultation process is in the “initial stages.”

One possibility we may see in the coming days: more joint US-South Korea military exercises, to demonstrate solidarity and support."

So excercises and don't say it FURTHER SANCTIONS

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpu...e-in-comi.html

I just hope N. Korea doesn't have tape of Obama throwing a baseball

What do you think the President of the United States should do right now, Dell? Exactly? If you don't find the above acceptable, what, exactly, do you want to see?

dellinger63 · #2 11-23-2010, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

What do you think the President of the United States should do right now, Dell? Exactly? If you don't find the above acceptable, what, exactly, do you want to see?

He needs to come out and say we are either with the S. Koreans or not. Period. Then let the S. Koreans act and we back! N. Korea is clearly the aggressor and our ignoring the torpedoing of the S. Korean ship is now coming back to haunt us.

God forbid we ever get attacked. I can see it now, "we are in the initial stages of consultation."

Riot · #3 11-23-2010, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

He needs to come out and say we are either with the S. Koreans or not. Period. "

"We strongly condemn the attack and we are rallying the international community to put pressure on North Korea." - Barack Obama

"The president called on China, in particular, to rebuke North Korea. He declined to comment on possible U.S. military action, saying only that South Korea is "one of our most important allies" and "a cornerstone of U.S. security in the Pacific region." "

"Briefing reporters earlier in the day, Deputy White House Press Secretary Bill Burton described Mr. Obama has being "outraged" by North Korean actions on Tuesday, adding that the United States "stands shoulder to shoulder" with South Korea and that it is fully committed to South Korea's defense."

dellinger63 · #4 11-23-2010, 09:40 PM

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"We strongly condemn the attack and we are rallying the international community to put pressure on North Korea." - Barack Obama

"The president called on China, in particular, to rebuke North Korea. He declined to comment on possible U.S. military action, saying only that South Korea is "one of our most important allies" and "a cornerstone of U.S. security in the Pacific region." "

well can we agree sanctions don't work and military excercises is like puffing out a chest, rarely works in a fight.

"Briefing reporters earlier in the day, Deputy White House Press Secretary Bill Burton described Mr. Obama has being "outraged" by North Korean actions on Tuesday, adding that the United States "stands shoulder to shoulder" with South Korea and that it is fully committed to South Korea's defense."

well can we agree sanctions don't work in N. Korea's, Iran's etc. world and military excercises is like puffing out one's chest, rarely works in a fight?

And does China rule N. Korea or does that little pajama guy?

Riot · #5 11-23-2010, 09:59 PM

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well can we agree sanctions don't work in N. Korea's, Iran's etc. world and military excercises is like puffing out one's chest, rarely works in a fight?

No.

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And does China rule N. Korea or does that little pajama guy?

Oh, China has no influence at all on N. Korea, Dell. None at all. What China thinks doesn't matter in the least.

Snort.

Have a nice Thanksgiving, Dell. Maybe someone will a start a war you can be thankful for.

dellinger63 · #6 11-23-2010, 10:02 PM

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No.

Figured

dellinger63 · #7 11-23-2010, 10:13 PM

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Have a nice Thanksgiving, Dell. Maybe someone will a start a war you can be thankful for.

Or maybe you could be thankful if we get attacked and simply turn the other cheek? Or even better make the attackers citizens, then school, cloth, house and provide medical care to them?

Riot · #8 11-23-2010, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

Or maybe you could be thankful if we get attacked and simply turn the other cheek? Or even better make the attackers citizens, then school, cloth, house and provide medical care to them?

Does reality have no influence whatsoever on your world? The President has called out China to take a stand on this. He is aggressively telling N Korea to back down. There is nothing "turn the other cheek" about the reality. This President isn't into starting wars for false reasons (like Bush), but he hasn't backed down - he immediately went more aggressively than Bush after Al Quaeda, he shot to kill Somali pirates, etc. It only exists in your non-reality-based anti-Obama imagination. You hate Obama. Geesh, we get it. But making crap up, pulling it out of your azz when it has no basis in reality, is just ... well, it's just the way you roll.

jms62 · #9 11-24-2010, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

He needs to come out and say we are either with the S. Koreans or not. Period. Then let the S. Koreans act and we back! N. Korea is clearly the aggressor and our ignoring the torpedoing of the S. Korean ship is now coming back to haunt us.

God forbid we ever get attacked. I can see it now, "we are in the initial stages of consultation."

Spoken like someone living in a vacum. We have war raging on 2 fronts Del, it is not a video game where we can hit reset when we make it 3 and see all the negative consequences. And if we do make it 3 is it Obama's fault that we sink deeper into this financial mire supporting it?

Cannon Shell · #10 11-24-2010, 05:45 PM

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Spoken like someone living in a vacum. We have war raging on 2 fronts Del, it is not a video game where we can hit reset when we make it 3 and see all the negative consequences. And if we do make it 3 is it Obama's fault that we sink deeper into this financial mire supporting it?

There is no war "raging". Iraq has been very quiet and Afganistan is hardly a raging war. The idea that the US or its allies are vunerable because of troops in the Middle East is not grounded in any sort of fact. The truth is that a conventional war is far easier for us to fight if it came to that because of our weaponary and the fact that we will have a clearly defined enemy. Rooting out terrorists is far tougher than leveling N. Korea though the presence of China makes it unlikely that we would even do that.

Danzig · #11 11-25-2010, 08:38 AM

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Spoken like someone living in a vacum. We have war raging on 2 fronts Del, it is not a video game where we can hit reset when we make it 3 and see all the negative consequences. And if we do make it 3 is it Obama's fault that we sink deeper into this financial mire supporting it?

i thought all combat troops were out of iraq?

dellinger63 · #12 11-26-2010, 09:55 AM

Well the appeal to China didn't work. Instead we have a warning issued.

Personally I think Obama needs to tell S. Korea fight or surrender. But I'm sure he'll issue a 'double important' appeal to China and 'more' needless sanctions for N. Korea. Heck if he's really mad he'll send Hillary to the UN in New York for 1000 star sanctions.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101126/...s_korea_north1

rpncaine · #13 11-26-2010, 10:14 AM

Have we tried "Double Secret Probation" yet?

dellinger63 · #14 11-26-2010, 10:55 AM

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Have we tried "Double Secret Probation" yet?

Since Truman.

Riot · #15 11-26-2010, 01:16 PM

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Personally I think Obama needs to tell S. Korea fight or surrender

Because the world needs another war. Brilliant.

Edit: and you can be the first to join up and go fight, okay!

bigrun · #16 11-26-2010, 01:39 PM

....Know your enemies ...

The Associated Press
Thursday, November 25, 2010; 6:44 AM

WASHINGTON -- Sarah Palin is drawing criticism from around the world after declaring that the United States has to stand with "our North Korean allies."

Palin's gaffe, made Wednesday during an interview on Glenn Beck's syndicated radio show, was quickly corrected by her host. But it drew immediate fire from liberal bloggers, who cited it as an example of the 2008 vice presidential candidate's lack of foreign policy expertise.

Newspapers in Asia and Europe are repeating the criticism. The Times of India says Palin "did it again," while London's Daily Mail says she "may want to brush up on her geography."

The conservative U.S. website The Weekly Standard came to Palin's defense, pointing out that "she correctly identified North Korea as our enemy literally eight seconds before the mix-up."

Antitrust32 · #17 11-24-2010, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

He needs to come out and say we are either with the S. Koreans or not. Period. Then let the S. Koreans act and we back! N. Korea is clearly the aggressor and our ignoring the torpedoing of the S. Korean ship is now coming back to haunt us.

God forbid we ever get attacked. I can see it now, "we are in the initial stages of consultation."

we definately cant be jumping into other people's wars right now. we should be cooling tempers instead of escalating them.