Zenyatta

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

She never beat a good field on the dirt. Her wonderfully planned campaign is going to result in her losing the horse of the year despite the entire industry bending over backwards and ignoring the ridiclously poor fillys she has been beating.

The only thing that was most electric about this BC was the need for electric heaters.

It was an exciting race though I would not say it was as good as Wild Again's Classic or Alysheba/Ferdinand or Sunday Silence/Easy Goer

I thought he was talking about Goldikova.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

I thought he was talking about Goldikova.

He may think she isn't that good because she competes on an inferior surface

[The Bid]

I think it was pretty obvious she was best in there Cannon. As somebody that spends day after day watching horses, do you dispute she was the best horse in there? That CHD had an electricity around it that cannot be found on Derby day? That she brought a dying game a glimmer of light.

For me it was the Greatest Breeders cup. It was a culmination of a great career, and for any fan it should have been a pleasure to have been there to see it. To see her actually make it back to this race was epic. She put on a show for all the people who are so happy she lost. For all the contrarians who don't understand greatness. Ran her heart out, towed a 126lb potato sack around, and made all of our hearts skip a beat.

[The Bid]

Ann I have watched more racing on a long holiday weekend than you have in your life. I don't nose around in pedigrees of days past. If you are foolish enough to not recognize this mare for what she is, thats your loss.

My idea of a great campaign is pointing to a race, getting there, and still having your unblemished record intact. After winning the Breeders cup against the boys last year, you were lucky to see her back at all. Whether she raced once, twice, whats the difference. SHe showed up where they said, she ran how she was supposed to run, like a champ.

Ann they havent been handicapping races like that since trains brought horses to the track and rockingham had a dining room.

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Ann I have watched more racing on a long holiday weekend than you have in your life. I don't nose around in pedigrees of days past. If you are foolish enough to not recognize this mare for what she is, thats your loss.

My idea of a great campaign is pointing to a race, getting there, and still having your unblemished record intact. After winning the Breeders cup against the boys last year, you were lucky to see her back at all. Whether she raced once, twice, whats the difference. SHe showed up where they said, she ran how she was supposed to run, like a champ.

Ann they havent been handicapping races like that since trains brought horses to the track and rockingham had a dining room.

So in other words, you really don't have a good answer to her post, eh?

[The Bid]

In other words Im not 93 years old talking about when horses were handicapped to 140lbs, or when they ran till they were 8. Be happy you saw as much of that champion as you did. Ill be over in the selection section giving away money until I get tired of doing so.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by The Bid

In other words Im not 93 years old talking about when horses were handicapped to 140lbs, or when they ran till they were 8. Be happy you saw as much of that champion as you did. Ill be over in the selection section giving away money until I get tired of doing so.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Bid

I think it was pretty obvious she was best in there Cannon. As somebody that spends day after day watching horses, do you dispute she was the best horse in there? That CHD had an electricity around it that cannot be found on Derby day? That she brought a dying game a glimmer of light.

For me it was the Greatest Breeders cup. It was a culmination of a great career, and for any fan it should have been a pleasure to have been there to see it. To see her actually make it back to this race was epic. She put on a show for all the people who are so happy she lost. For all the contrarians who don't understand greatness. Ran her heart out, towed a 126lb potato sack around, and made all of our hearts skip a beat.

It isn't about opinion. It is about wins. That is what we have been told for a year and a half by the Zenyatta fans/connections. She didn't win so i don't want to hear the excuses. Your opinion or my opinion about who is better is moot. It is about who had the better year and was more accomplished. Clearly Blame was. Was the story of Blame and its connections as good a story as Zenyatta? No, but why does that matter when voting for awards? This isn't pro wrestling.

Good thing you weren't around for John Henry. Don't confuse a nice story and some good publicity for greatness. You also shouldn't confuse people with a better sense of history and understanding of true great horses with contrarians. For you it might have been a great experience, it was a really good race. But because you weren't around when racing wasn't so watered down doesn't mean that you can make statements like you have and not be challenged.

If you had said the same things about Goldikova, I would have probably agreed. It is quite telling when people can't tell the difference between the two fillies and why one has universal respect and one doesn't.