Zenyatta

CSC · #1 11-07-2010, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

Yeah he steadied, and it was probably 7 not 5

What cost her was the start more than anything, she almost lost contact with the field to I guess not being used to getting kickback in her face from racing on synth's almost her entire career, the slight steady was more of an inconvenience that cost her momentum. When the difference is a head, she was simply not good enough to overcome it to a horse as good as Blame at CD, one thing we can be certain of from yesterday's race, Blame and Zenyatta were 3+ better than the rest of the field. Great race by both, no disgrace winning it or finishing 2nd, I keep hearing this was a brutal field but in all due respect this was the best dirt fields we have had in the past 2 years.

ateamstupid · #2 11-07-2010, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

Great race by both, no disgrace winning it or finishing 2nd, I keep hearing this was a brutal field but in all due respect this was one of the best dirt fields in the past 2 years.

That really isn't saying much.

The Bid · #3 11-07-2010, 10:06 AM

You dont have a clue what you are talking about. Why dont you just read and learn something you jerkoff. She lost contact early. There is no horse running today thats in a photo w/ a horse like blame after that alone. Not to mention steading her when he was just getting her best run. Anytime you are beat a nose, there is some point in the race you could have done things differently and changed the outcome. SHe was visually the best horse and I dont see how anybody can argue that. Blame had a great ride, perfect trip and ran a wonderful race. He wasn't the best horse, but he will be, and should be HOY.

MaTH716 · #4 11-07-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

You dont have a clue what you are talking about. Why dont you just read and learn something you jerkoff. She lost contact early. There is no horse running today thats in a photo w/ a horse like blame after that alone. Not to mention steading her when he was just getting her best run. Anytime you are beat a nose, there is some point in the race you could have done things differently and changed the outcome. SHe was visually the best horse and I dont see how anybody can argue that. Blame had a great ride, perfect trip and ran a wonderful race. He wasn't the best horse, but he will be, and should be HOY.

Yeah, but to say that she was 5-7 lengths better is ridiculous.

The Bid · #5 11-07-2010, 10:12 AM

Math, how many do you think she spotted them off mild pace. Honestly. She was 2-1 to blame the last 200 yards. Horses aren't supposed to come to you after the kind of trip she recieved. If anything that really debunks the figure guys who said shes too slow. She simply goes after whatever is in front of her. There is no horse running that makes a race of that after that opening quarter.

MaTH716 · #6 11-07-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

Math, how many do you think she spotted them off mild pace. Honestly. She was 2-1 to blame the last 200 yards. Horses aren't supposed to come to you after the kind of trip she recieved. If anything that really debunks the figure guys who said shes too slow. She simply goes after whatever is in front of her. There is no horse running that makes a race of that after that opening quarter.

But what makes you think that she would have has enough to make her run if she was closer to the pace? Doesn't that come into play?

The Bid · #7 11-07-2010, 10:18 AM

It may have taken a little punch outta her run being closer, but she wouldn't have needed that same punch had she been closer. She was never on even terms with Blame. Even after the wire she pulled up so quickly she had given everything she had. Gomez rode a flawless race, and Blame needed a flawless race to beat that champion. Mike Smith, he made a few mistakes and that cost her the race, HOY

ateamstupid · #8 11-07-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

Math, how many do you think she spotted them off mild pace. Honestly. She was 2-1 to blame the last 200 yards. Horses aren't supposed to come to you after the kind of trip she recieved. If anything that really debunks the figure guys who said shes too slow. She simply goes after whatever is in front of her. There is no horse running that makes a race of that after that opening quarter.

Mild pace? Are you serious? The race completely collapsed in front of her. She ran well, but she ran the race she always runs. Like I said in the other thread, if they weren't busy talking about her f'ing dance moves all year, maybe they could've put some more speed into her for a race like this.

DrugS called this the other day. He said she'd have to run way faster early than she ever had before to stay close and that that would probably have taken the starch out of her. They went the other way with her. She's a one run closer, she made that one run and she came up short. She still ran very well, but enough with the excuses.

RockHardTen1985 · #9 11-07-2010, 10:16 AM

Can we not call each other bud and guy... Its so 2 years ago,dudes...

Princess Doreen · #10 11-07-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

You dont have a clue what you are talking about. Why dont you just read and learn something you jerkoff. She lost contact early. There is no horse running today thats in a photo w/ a horse like blame after that alone. Not to mention steading her when he was just getting her best run. Anytime you are beat a nose, there is some point in the race you could have done things differently and changed the outcome. SHe was visually the best horse and I dont see how anybody can argue that. Blame had a great ride, perfect trip and ran a wonderful race. He wasn't the best horse, but he will be, and should be HOY.

It would help if you quoted the person to whom you are responding.

Just sayin'.....

Dahoss · #11 11-07-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

You dont have a clue what you are talking about. Why dont you just read and learn something you jerkoff. She lost contact early. There is no horse running today thats in a photo w/ a horse like blame after that alone. Not to mention steading her when he was just getting her best run. Anytime you are beat a nose, there is some point in the race you could have done things differently and changed the outcome. SHe was visually the best horse and I dont see how anybody can argue that. Blame had a great ride, perfect trip and ran a wonderful race. He wasn't the best horse, but he will be, and should be HOY.

You said she lost 7 lengths at the quarter pole and I don't have a clue? Pretty funny stuff. You're making excuses. No need to. She ran her race. It wasn't enough to win. Life goes on.

Smooth Operator · #12 11-07-2010, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

You dont have a clue what you are talking about. Why dont you just read and learn something you jerkoff. She lost contact early. There is no horse running today thats in a photo w/ a horse like blame after that alone. Not to mention steading her when he was just getting her best run. Anytime you are beat a nose, there is some point in the race you could have done things differently and changed the outcome. SHe was visually the best horse and I dont see how anybody can argue that. Blame had a great ride, perfect trip and ran a wonderful race. He wasn't the best horse, but he will be, and should be HOY.

Great stuff, Bid

Actually, there are quite a few on this board who think they're much smarter than they actually are.

Of course Z was the best horse in the race yesterday

Even my brother's 4yo could see that

That said, I too have no problem if B gets HotY.

CSC · #13 11-07-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

That really isn't saying much.

I'm really trying to be rational with the discussion here with you, so please help me out here because I really want to understand this. But why wasn't this brought up with the discussion regarding Rachel's win in the Woodward field when all of a sudden it matters this year? I think anyone would agree this BC field was far better than the one she faced in the Woodward.

Danzig · #14 11-07-2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

What cost her was the start more than anything, she almost lost contact with the field to I guess not being used to getting kickback in her face from racing on synth's almost her entire career, the slight steady was more of an imconvenience that cost her momentum. When the difference is a head, she was simply not good enough to overcome it to a horse of Blame at CD, one thing we can be certain of from yesterday's race, Blame and Zenyatta were 3+ better than the rest of the field. Great race by both, no disgrace winning it or finishing 2nd, I keep hearing this was a brutal field but in all due respect this was one of the best dirt fields in the past 2 years.

she didn't get much kick back, she wasn't close enough to experience it for much of the race.

a couple of horses were decent, but some of them were distance limited. the bulk of the field sucked.

CSC · #15 11-07-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

she didn't get much kick back, she wasn't close enough to experience it for much of the race.

a couple of horses were decent, but some of them were distance limited. the bulk of the field sucked.

There is more kickback on dirt. I know, neither are great...I remember that quote of yours succinctly.