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Old 11-01-2010, 12:37 AM
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Once again, what does Rachel Alexandra have to do with this? There were plenty of other hills for the 'champion' to climb after RA didn't show, but they were fine with satisfying tards like you and beating cupcakes the rest of the year, as if RA not showing alone justifies Zenyatta's greatness.
forget about what she won and who she beat, dont you think the publicity that follows her is good for racing?
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Old 11-01-2010, 12:50 AM
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forget about what she won and who she beat, dont you think the publicity that follows her is good for racing?
More deflecting. That's not what this discussion was about. And I think her publicity is bad for racing, because it sets the example for other owners/trainers that 'forget about what she won and who she beat', she's just the best because we say so. There's enough ducking in racing already that we don't need a horse who has taken the easy road 95% of the time in her career being called the second coming of Pegasus by idiots.
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Old 11-01-2010, 07:04 AM
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Unfortunately, we will never know just how "great" she could have been.
Even if she does win her 2nd Classic, it won't prove she is the "greatest" of all time. I will cheer for her of course because she is fun to watch, and she is a unique individual, but she won't be a single on any of my tickets.

"Yay", for whats she's done for racing and 'Yay", for any new fans that she created. Let her have her trophy for most popular. To hear that she is the "greatest of all time" is totally ludicrous.

However, to see Goldikova come over here and win her third straight Breeders' Cup mile.. Now THAT will be quite the accomplishment in my book.
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Old 11-01-2010, 02:04 PM
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However, to see Goldikova come over here and win her third straight Breeders' Cup mile.. Now THAT will be quite the accomplishment in my book.
An actual champion. But nobody cares about her because she doesn't dance and doesn't have the hype machine dominating the media.
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Old 11-02-2010, 02:06 AM
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forget about what she won and who she beat, dont you think the publicity that follows her is good for racing?
What publicity? The average schmuck on the street has no clue about who or what a Zenyatta is.EVERYONE knew,and knows,who Secretariat was.And I don't think a movie will be made about Zenyatta and her wins against Southern Cal. claiming horses and N1X winners.I don't think she has even come close to setting a track record in her career.
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Old 11-02-2010, 04:36 AM
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What publicity? The average schmuck on the street has no clue about who or what a Zenyatta is.
Unfortunately this is wrong. On the good side, just about as many non-race fans knew about Pepper's Pride. On the bad side, very few of these "schmucks" know who Rachel Alexandra is, and even less of them can pronounce her name right
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Old 11-03-2010, 12:38 AM
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Unfortunately this is wrong. On the good side, just about as many non-race fans knew about Pepper's Pride. On the bad side, very few of these "schmucks" know who Rachel Alexandra is, and even less of them can pronounce her name right
No it is not wrong,it is spot on.And Rachel has nothing to do with this.
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Old 11-03-2010, 05:13 AM
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No it is not wrong,it is spot on.And Rachel has nothing to do with this.
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:01 AM
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What publicity? The average schmuck on the street has no clue about who or what a Zenyatta is.EVERYONE knew,and knows,who Secretariat was.And I don't think a movie will be made about Zenyatta and her wins against Southern Cal. claiming horses and N1X winners.I don't think she has even come close to setting a track record in her career.
I think Zenyatta is the single most overhyped entity I have ever encountered in my life.
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I think Zenyatta is the single most overhyped entity I have ever encountered in my life.
IC just in case you missed this....

http://www.courier-journal.com/artic...about-Zenyatta
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Actually, that piece was extremely fair.
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I think Zenyatta is the single most overhyped entity I have ever encountered in my life.

Wow, you have a short memory

Might have to bump a few of those old RA threads and articles from last fall and winter

Talk about overhyping…
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:57 AM
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Wow, you have a short memory

Might have to bump a few of those old RA threads and articles from last fall and winter

Talk about overhyping…
The RA hype is stomped into dust by the Zenyatta hype, and it's not debatable.
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The RA hype is stomped into dust by the Zenyatta hype, and it's not debatable.
That's because there are less reasons to hype her this yr, it's not even comparable to last year, if my memory is correct I was the only one that even dared to critique her record, and as silly as it sounded at the time to some, she was overhyped and yes I will include the same Sentiment to those that are premature in their declarations of Zenyatta being the greatest before Sat's race. Something I have never said BTW.
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:26 AM
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That's because there are less reasons to hype her this yr, it's not even comparable to last year, if my memory is correct I was the only one that even dared to critique her record, and as silly as I will agree both she was overhyped and yes I will include those that are premature in their declarations of Zenyatta being the greatest before Sat's race. Something I have never said BTW.
You're out of your mind. The Zenyatta hype is unlike anything I've seen in my lifetime.
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:30 AM
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That's because there are less reasons to hype her this yr, it's not even comparable to last year, if my memory is correct I was the only one that even dared to critique her record, and as silly as it sounded at the time to some, she was overhyped and yes I will include the same Sentiment to those that are premature in their declarations of Zenyatta being the greatest before Sat's race. Something I have never said BTW.
That's not true at all. I said it was lunacy to say RA was an all time great, or even a better filly than Rags to Riches.
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yes I will include the same Sentiment to those that are premature in their declarations of Zenyatta being the greatest before Sat's race.
Those assertions are not just premature, but also patently absurd. Zenyatta can win on Saturday by double digit lengths, and still no reasonable person would refer to her as the greatest. Anyone who thinks she is better than Secretariat is suffering from dementia.
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:08 AM
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Wow, you have a short memory

Might have to bump a few of those old RA threads and articles from last fall and winter

Talk about overhyping…
Yes, I will give you that, that RA was massively overhyped. I said it back then as well.

The Zenyatta hype though, it moves like a tremendous machine.
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