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[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

Dont make surface as an excuse. Zenyatta showed up in Arkansas but RA did not.

What does Rachel Alexandra have to do with anything?

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

What does Rachel Alexandra have to do with anything?

RA excuse for not coming to cali is because they do not want to run on plastic. When the stage was set to for a match race on dirt, they did not show but Zenyatta did.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

RA excuse for not coming to cali is because they do not want to run on plastic. When the stage was set to for a match race on dirt, they did not show but Zenyatta did.

Once again, what does Rachel Alexandra have to do with this? There were plenty of other hills for the 'champion' to climb after RA didn't show, but they were fine with satisfying tards like you and beating cupcakes the rest of the year, as if RA not showing alone justifies Zenyatta's greatness.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Once again, what does Rachel Alexandra have to do with this? There were plenty of other hills for the 'champion' to climb after RA didn't show, but they were fine with satisfying tards like you and beating cupcakes the rest of the year, as if RA not showing alone justifies Zenyatta's greatness.

forget about what she won and who she beat, dont you think the publicity that follows her is good for racing?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

forget about what she won and who she beat, dont you think the publicity that follows her is good for racing?

More deflecting. That's not what this discussion was about. And I think her publicity is bad for racing, because it sets the example for other owners/trainers that 'forget about what she won and who she beat', she's just the best because we say so. There's enough ducking in racing already that we don't need a horse who has taken the easy road 95% of the time in her career being called the second coming of Pegasus by idiots.

[Arletta]

Unfortunately, we will never know just how "great" she could have been.
Even if she does win her 2nd Classic, it won't prove she is the "greatest" of all time. I will cheer for her of course because she is fun to watch, and she is a unique individual, but she won't be a single on any of my tickets.

"Yay", for whats she's done for racing and 'Yay", for any new fans that she created. Let her have her trophy for most popular. To hear that she is the "greatest of all time" is totally ludicrous.

However, to see Goldikova come over here and win her third straight Breeders' Cup mile.. Now THAT will be quite the accomplishment in my book.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Arletta

However, to see Goldikova come over here and win her third straight Breeders' Cup mile.. Now THAT will be quite the accomplishment in my book.

An actual champion. But nobody cares about her because she doesn't dance and doesn't have the hype machine dominating the media.

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

forget about what she won and who she beat, dont you think the publicity that follows her is good for racing?

What publicity? The average schmuck on the street has no clue about who or what a Zenyatta is.EVERYONE knew,and knows,who Secretariat was.And I don't think a movie will be made about Zenyatta and her wins against Southern Cal. claiming horses and N1X winners.I don't think she has even come close to setting a track record in her career.

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by Left Bank

What publicity? The average schmuck on the street has no clue about who or what a Zenyatta is.

Unfortunately this is wrong. On the good side, just about as many non-race fans knew about Pepper's Pride. On the bad side, very few of these "schmucks" know who Rachel Alexandra is, and even less of them can pronounce her name right

[Left Bank]

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown

Unfortunately this is wrong. On the good side, just about as many non-race fans knew about Pepper's Pride. On the bad side, very few of these "schmucks" know who Rachel Alexandra is, and even less of them can pronounce her name right

No it is not wrong,it is spot on.And Rachel has nothing to do with this.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Left Bank

What publicity? The average schmuck on the street has no clue about who or what a Zenyatta is.EVERYONE knew,and knows,who Secretariat was.And I don't think a movie will be made about Zenyatta and her wins against Southern Cal. claiming horses and N1X winners.I don't think she has even come close to setting a track record in her career.

I think Zenyatta is the single most overhyped entity I have ever encountered in my life.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I think Zenyatta is the single most overhyped entity I have ever encountered in my life.

IC just in case you missed this....

http://www.courier-journal.com/artic...about-Zenyatta

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I think Zenyatta is the single most overhyped entity I have ever encountered in my life.

Wow, you have a short memory

Might have to bump a few of those old RA threads and articles from last fall and winter

Talk about overhyping…