Best Player in the NFL....

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

They aren't great, but, to be great, you better do something that even these guys got done. Again, this is about modern-era guys. If someone goes to the post 10 times, and loses the only Superbowl he got his team to, then, he wasn't great.

This is an article that list 4th quarter comebacks. Not really a big deal as the stat was really created for John Elway.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=3401

But most Super Bowl winning teams are not usually flukes (except for the Patriots first Super Bowl victory), but are complete package teams.

Was there anything weak with Montana's teams? Steve Young's? Both great QB's.

John Elway couldn't win one until he finally got a running game.
Brett Favre only won one, and his team had no flaws whatsoever.
I will always think that Peyton Manning looked like Trent Dilfer in his win over the Bears. The Bears known to stop the run all season had no answer on stopping Addai and Rhodes. I still think Rhodes or the offensive line was the MVP of that game.

But when you talk about Marino and Dolphins, its always one dimensional. They had no running game period.

I'm not a fan of hypotheticals, but what happens if you put Marino on any of those teams I mentioned? Does he choke it?

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

This is an article that list 4th quarter comebacks. Not really a big deal as the stat was really created for John Elway.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=3401

But most Super Bowl winning teams are not usually flukes (except for the Patriots first Super Bowl), but are complete package teams.

Was there anything weak with Montana's teams? Steve Young's? Both great QB's.

John Elway couldn't win one until he finally got a running game.
Brett Favre only won one, and his team had no flaws whatsoever.
I will always think that Peyton Manning looked like Trent Dilfer in his win over the Bears. The Bears known to stop the run all season had no answer on stopping Addai and Rhodes. I still think Rhodes or the offensive line was the MVP of that game.

But when you talk about Marino and Dolphins, its always one dimensional. They had no running game period.

I'm not a fan of hypotheticals, but what happens if you put Marino on any of those teams I mentioned? Does he choke it?

You have brought about a great point with Marino. I also agree with you, it doesnt hurt a QB to have a good supporting cast of players.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

This is an article that list 4th quarter comebacks. Not really a big deal as the stat was really created for John Elway.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=3401

I'm not a fan of hypotheticals, but what happens if you put Marino on any of those teams I mentioned? Does he choke it?

Yep

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

This is an article that list 4th quarter comebacks. Not really a big deal as the stat was really created for John Elway.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=3401


I'm not a fan of hypotheticals, but what happens if you put Marino on any of those teams I mentioned? Does he choke it?

You think Manning has had any more to work with than Marino did?

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

You think Manning has had any more to work with than Marino did?

Like I mentioned before the Colts had a running game with Addai and Rhodes (James before the Super Bowls year). Something Marino never had.

Their defense was in full strength by the time they made the playoffs. Like Joey mentioned before, they were very lucky to pull off playoff victories with Manning playing like crap. The MVP of the Superbowl should of went to the running game against a defense that had not given up anything all year until then.