A truly bad day for N.J.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

hey it didnt bother me. The internet is the internet, I take it for what it is and thank DT for making my work hours go by faster.

I just know that those two phrases were the farthest from my mind when I used the term "ripped off".

Do you believe tracks get fairly compensated for their signal?

I never even imagined you were trying to say something either unfair or incorrect ( just as, even though he felt a need to make it up, I never called Phil anything close to a " liar " ). I was actually responding more to Phil's response to me ( he likes to take the opposing side to my posts....it's an endearing quality of his ).

The signal fee discussion is a very long, interesting, and complicated one...that frankly I don't have nearly the time for ( at least right now ). Perhaps we can have it over a drink or ten some time this summer. Obviously racetracks started off selling their signals at seemingly very low rates. However, there are a lot of factors to take into consideration in the discussions. Track to track rates face different variables than Track to ADW relationships.

I just hate simple terms like " ripped off " for these very complex discussions. It's probably just another of my annoying qualities.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I never even imagined you were trying to say something either unfair or incorrect ( just as, even though he felt a need to make it up, I never called Phil anything close to a " liar " ). I was actually responding more to Phil's response to me ( he likes to take the opposing side to my posts....it's an endearing quality of his ).

The signal fee discussion is a very long, interesting, and complicated one...that frankly I don't have nearly the time for ( at least right now ). Perhaps we can have it over a drink or ten some time this summer. Obviously racetracks started off selling their signals at seemingly very low rates. However, there are a lot of factors to take into consideration in the discussions. Track to track rates face different variables than Track to ADW relationships.

I just hate simple terms like " ripped off " for these very complex discussions. It's probably just another of my annoying qualities.

Race track operators seem to have a unique habit of putting themselves in situations to get bent over in the future. One of the best parts of the RTIP is the Joe Hirsch Speaker Series, where you get to hear from & talk to guys like Charles Champion, to Race Track simulcast directors & hear different sides of the situations. I found myself many times thinking, "no, really?" when it comes to this issue, & others similar. Especially when you are looking at it from a 2001-2005 perspective & not a 1970's perspective. But one of racings best qualities is its ability to evolve (though I do understand the difficulties in evolving)

You're going to have to have 10 extra for me, since I will be enjoying Saratoga from the confines of my cubby in Slowcala, FL. I know I will be breaking many of hearts, not being able to run wild for at least a long weekend in the greatest summer vacation spot on earth. 13 straight years..

[richard burch]

Does what the fatso Governor said yesterday automatically become law or do they have to vote on it? Can the democrats stop this?

Is there a chance this may not go through until some other alternative ideas are presented?

If this does pass, does racing stop after the current meets end?




Where are you R. Codey? Now is your chance to be a hero!

[GoIrish]

It was merely a report, submitted at the behest of the governor, which contains recommendations on a number of topics, horse racing being one. Many recommendations in the report would require legislation and much political crapola. One fact is this is the last year of the casino subsidy, so something will have to happen for the purse structure next year. I don't think the state can just shut the doors, since the number of racing dates per year in NJ is mandated by law. Special legislation had to be passed for this meet to cut the dates.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by GoIrish

It was merely a report, submitted at the behest of the governor, which contains recommendations on a number of topics, horse racing being one. Many recommendations in the report would require legislation and much political crapola. One fact is this is the last year of the casino subsidy, so something will have to happen for the purse structure next year. I don't think the state can just shut the doors, since the number of racing dates per year in NJ is mandated by law. Special legislation had to be passed for this meet to cut the dates.

so there could be a ray of hope. at least for a delay.

i just fired off a letter to my legislators because i'm not going down without a fight!

for anyone in n. j. who cares, find your legislator and let them know how you feel.

they can be found at:

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/distric...cipalities.asp