Trivia - turf horses

The Indomitable DrugS · #1 07-19-2010, 10:47 PM

Yep. I would have bet the house no one was getting that one not named Kiri's or Rollo.

Diplomatic Jet was 7 for 13 over the Belmont turf with his 3 Grade 1 wins coming at 29/1 odds (By 4 lengths in the Manhatten) 11/1 odds (By 2 lengths in the Man O' War) and he also paid $13.40 when he won the Turf Classic. Not to mention a win at 6/1 in the Knickerbocker and that 12 lengths score in the Pilgram at age 2.

philcski · #2 07-19-2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yep. I would have bet the house no one was getting that one not named Kiri's or Rollo.

Diplomatic Jet was 7 for 13 over the Belmont turf with his 3 Grade 1 wins coming at 29/1 odds (By 4 lengths in the Manhatten) 11/1 odds (By 2 lengths in the Man O' War) and he also paid $13.40 when he won the Turf Classic. Not to mention a win at 6/1 in the Knickerbocker and that 12 lengths score in the Pilgram at age 2.

I remember the Pilgrim win by 12 very well. It isn't often you see 2yo's winning turf races by a dozen.

That Champagne day was very interesting. A future champ got beat at 1/5, another future champ won by 21, and a Derby winner finished last. Name them without looking at the charts from that day...

The Indomitable DrugS · #3 07-19-2010, 11:22 PM

Flanders by 21 - I'm assuming Sea Hero was the Derby winner who ran last. Not sure about who went down at 1/5?

The Indomitable DrugS · #4 07-19-2010, 11:27 PM

Lure was beaten at 1/5 by a horse who was trained by the same guy who trained Trivia horse #2. I just remembered Steve Crist doing the weekend recap with Harvey Pack for that Super Saturday of old.

DaTruth · #5 07-19-2010, 11:34 PM

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Lure was beaten at 1/5 by a horse who was trained by the same guy who trained Trivia horse #2. I just remembered Steve Crist doing the weekend recap with Harvey Pack for that Super Saturday of old.

Man From Wicklow?

The Indomitable DrugS · #6 07-19-2010, 11:35 PM

Correct.

DaTruth · #7 07-19-2010, 11:41 PM

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Correct.

The Nijinsky's Gold hint gave it away. His win over Lure in the Kelso was a highwater mark for Labreds. Tony Richey trained Nijinsky's Gold for many of his starts.

Antitrust32 · #8 07-20-2010, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yep. I would have bet the house no one was getting that one not named Kiri's or Rollo.

Diplomatic Jet was 7 for 13 over the Belmont turf with his 3 Grade 1 wins coming at 29/1 odds (By 4 lengths in the Manhatten) 11/1 odds (By 2 lengths in the Man O' War) and he also paid $13.40 when he won the Turf Classic. Not to mention a win at 6/1 in the Knickerbocker and that 12 lengths score in the Pilgram at age 2.

he's my all time favorite turf horse.

Was running right when I started watching racing, and on a family trip to Florida when I was 15, my mom and I rented a truck and drove to Ocala, FL to see the pretty horses. I remember we went to Double Diamond and saw a son of Personal Ensign (Proud Truth or something like that).. and then we went to Fred Hoopers farm and Diplomatic Jet was there... I was like freaking out cause I love that horse..

They let me to in his paddock and hold him on a lead rope.. he was quite a handful (not in a sumitis type of way though).

Good memories.. I'm sure my Mommy has pictures somewhere.

Ironically, I now live in the hell hole called Slowcala, and my house isnt too far from Hoopers old farm!

Indian Charlie · #9 07-20-2010, 11:45 AM

Slew the Dragon was a really nice and forgotten horse that was miserable on dirt and then moved up tons on turf.

I think he had one second in six turf starts, all the other starts being pretty easy wins.

Cannon Shell · #10 07-20-2010, 04:25 PM

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Slew the Dragon was a really nice and forgotten horse that was miserable on dirt and then moved up tons on turf.

I think he had one second in six turf starts, all the other starts being pretty easy wins.

Still holds the TR at Aqueduct for 1 1/8th on turf. I believe that was set in the Lashkari stakes the day after the BC at the big A. Think he got beat at the Meadowlands going 3 turns. Rutgers maybe?

KirisClown · #11 07-20-2010, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yep. I would have bet the house no one was getting that one not named Kiri's or Rollo.

Diplomatic Jet was 7 for 13 over the Belmont turf with his 3 Grade 1 wins coming at 29/1 odds (By 4 lengths in the Manhatten) 11/1 odds (By 2 lengths in the Man O' War) and he also paid $13.40 when he won the Turf Classic.

I wish I had been here for the trivia last night..

Name the horses that were favored in those three Grade I races Diplomatic Jet won in 1996..

One was a Scotty Schulhofer trainee that had once run in the Belmont Stakes, the other was an Arlington Million winner..

robfla · #12 07-20-2010, 01:04 PM

Awad was one

KirisClown · #13 07-20-2010, 01:25 PM

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Awad was one

Yup, that's correct.. he was favored in both the Man o War and Turf Classic that year..

The Indomitable DrugS · #14 07-20-2010, 04:10 PM

I'm not sure which remaining horse is the answer to Kiri's question .. but here's a horse who was well bet in said race.

Another like Man From Wicklow whos best game was going long on turf in blinkers .. made 18th career start in the KY Derby .. Grade 1 stakes winner on both surfaces .. made 40 career starts in a span of just 32 months. Name him.

RockHardTen1985 · #15 07-20-2010, 04:12 PM

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I'm not sure which remaining horse is the answer to Kiri's question .. but here's a horse who was well bet in said race.

Another like Man From Wicklow whos best game was going long on turf in blinkers .. made 18th career start in the KY Derby .. Grade 1 stakes winner on both surfaces .. made 40 career starts in a span of just 32 months. Name him.

Minishaft

KirisClown · #16 07-20-2010, 04:13 PM

Mecke

KirisClown · #17 07-20-2010, 04:15 PM

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I'm not sure which remaining horse is the answer to Kiri's question ..

He was a Centennial Farm horse.. he had won the Bouganvilia and Hialeah Turf Cup before running in the Manhattan..

He ran in the 1994 Belmont Stakes and the 95 BC Turf..

KirisClown · #18 07-20-2010, 06:07 PM

Later in life this horse went on to be a multiple Grade I winner on the grass..

Dahoss · #19 07-20-2010, 04:15 PM

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I wish I had been here for the trivia last night..

Name the horses that were favored in those three Grade I races Diplomatic Jet won in 1996..

One was a Scotty Schulhofer trainee that had once run in the Belmont Stakes, the other was an Arlington Million winner..

Was Signal Tap the other?

KirisClown · #20 07-20-2010, 04:28 PM

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Was Signal Tap the other?

Yup, it was Signal Tap.. very good..