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The Indomitable DrugS 07-19-2010 10:37 PM

Trivia - turf horses
 
This one could be a bitch ....



Multiple Grade 1 winning turf horse who sucked miserably on dirt. Name him.

philcski 07-19-2010 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 671246)
This one could be a bitch ....



Multiple Grade 1 winning turf horse who sucked miserably on dirt. Name him.

Diplomatic Jet? Won the Turf Classic, Man O' War, and Manhattan back in the mid 90's?

The Indomitable DrugS 07-19-2010 10:47 PM

Yep. I would have bet the house no one was getting that one not named Kiri's or Rollo.

Diplomatic Jet was 7 for 13 over the Belmont turf with his 3 Grade 1 wins coming at 29/1 odds (By 4 lengths in the Manhatten) 11/1 odds (By 2 lengths in the Man O' War) and he also paid $13.40 when he won the Turf Classic. Not to mention a win at 6/1 in the Knickerbocker and that 12 lengths score in the Pilgram at age 2.

The Indomitable DrugS 07-19-2010 11:03 PM



Future Grade 1 winner ... was an absolute bum of a horse until he started going long on the turf with blinkers. Name him.

philcski 07-19-2010 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 671251)
Yep. I would have bet the house no one was getting that one not named Kiri's or Rollo.

Diplomatic Jet was 7 for 13 over the Belmont turf with his 3 Grade 1 wins coming at 29/1 odds (By 4 lengths in the Manhatten) 11/1 odds (By 2 lengths in the Man O' War) and he also paid $13.40 when he won the Turf Classic. Not to mention a win at 6/1 in the Knickerbocker and that 12 lengths score in the Pilgram at age 2.

I remember the Pilgrim win by 12 very well. It isn't often you see 2yo's winning turf races by a dozen.

That Champagne day was very interesting. A future champ got beat at 1/5, another future champ won by 21, and a Derby winner finished last. Name them without looking at the charts from that day...

The Indomitable DrugS 07-19-2010 11:22 PM

Flanders by 21 - I'm assuming Sea Hero was the Derby winner who ran last. Not sure about who went down at 1/5?

The Indomitable DrugS 07-19-2010 11:27 PM

Lure was beaten at 1/5 by a horse who was trained by the same guy who trained Trivia horse #2. I just remembered Steve Crist doing the weekend recap with Harvey Pack for that Super Saturday of old.

DaTruth 07-19-2010 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 671258)
Lure was beaten at 1/5 by a horse who was trained by the same guy who trained Trivia horse #2. I just remembered Steve Crist doing the weekend recap with Harvey Pack for that Super Saturday of old.

Man From Wicklow?

The Indomitable DrugS 07-19-2010 11:35 PM

Correct.

DaTruth 07-19-2010 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 671260)
Correct.

The Nijinsky's Gold hint gave it away. His win over Lure in the Kelso was a highwater mark for Labreds. Tony Richey trained Nijinsky's Gold for many of his starts.

philcski 07-20-2010 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 671258)
Lure was beaten at 1/5 by a horse who was trained by the same guy who trained Trivia horse #2. I just remembered Steve Crist doing the weekend recap with Harvey Pack for that Super Saturday of old.

Correct on Flanders and Lure. The Derby winner was Go For Gin, although Sea Hero is obviously a good guess.

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 671259)
Man From Wicklow?

Nice one!! I knew I had seen the PP's before but had to go cheat and go back through the charts to figure out who it was.

CSC 07-20-2010 09:46 AM

I'm not good at these, but I was thinking Turk Passer but I remembered he didn't wear blinkers, he beat a pretty good field in the Turf Classic the year her won it.

Antitrust32 07-20-2010 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 671251)
Yep. I would have bet the house no one was getting that one not named Kiri's or Rollo.

Diplomatic Jet was 7 for 13 over the Belmont turf with his 3 Grade 1 wins coming at 29/1 odds (By 4 lengths in the Manhatten) 11/1 odds (By 2 lengths in the Man O' War) and he also paid $13.40 when he won the Turf Classic. Not to mention a win at 6/1 in the Knickerbocker and that 12 lengths score in the Pilgram at age 2.

he's my all time favorite turf horse.

Was running right when I started watching racing, and on a family trip to Florida when I was 15, my mom and I rented a truck and drove to Ocala, FL to see the pretty horses. I remember we went to Double Diamond and saw a son of Personal Ensign (Proud Truth or something like that).. and then we went to Fred Hoopers farm and Diplomatic Jet was there... I was like freaking out cause I love that horse..

They let me to in his paddock and hold him on a lead rope.. he was quite a handful (not in a sumitis type of way though).

Good memories.. I'm sure my Mommy has pictures somewhere.

Ironically, I now live in the hell hole called Slowcala, and my house isnt too far from Hoopers old farm!

Indian Charlie 07-20-2010 11:45 AM

Slew the Dragon was a really nice and forgotten horse that was miserable on dirt and then moved up tons on turf.

I think he had one second in six turf starts, all the other starts being pretty easy wins.

KirisClown 07-20-2010 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 671251)
Yep. I would have bet the house no one was getting that one not named Kiri's or Rollo.

Diplomatic Jet was 7 for 13 over the Belmont turf with his 3 Grade 1 wins coming at 29/1 odds (By 4 lengths in the Manhatten) 11/1 odds (By 2 lengths in the Man O' War) and he also paid $13.40 when he won the Turf Classic.

I wish I had been here for the trivia last night..

Name the horses that were favored in those three Grade I races Diplomatic Jet won in 1996..

One was a Scotty Schulhofer trainee that had once run in the Belmont Stakes, the other was an Arlington Million winner..

robfla 07-20-2010 01:04 PM

Awad was one

KirisClown 07-20-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by robfla (Post 671434)
Awad was one


Yup, that's correct.. he was favored in both the Man o War and Turf Classic that year..

The Indomitable DrugS 07-20-2010 04:10 PM

I'm not sure which remaining horse is the answer to Kiri's question .. but here's a horse who was well bet in said race.





Another like Man From Wicklow whos best game was going long on turf in blinkers .. made 18th career start in the KY Derby .. Grade 1 stakes winner on both surfaces .. made 40 career starts in a span of just 32 months. Name him.

RockHardTen1985 07-20-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 671563)
I'm not sure which remaining horse is the answer to Kiri's question .. but here's a horse who was well bet in said race.





Another like Man From Wicklow whos best game was going long on turf in blinkers .. made 18th career start in the KY Derby .. Grade 1 stakes winner on both surfaces .. made 40 career starts in a span of just 32 months. Name him.


Minishaft

KirisClown 07-20-2010 04:13 PM

Mecke


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