Ahhhhh she did it!!!!

[Smooth Operator]

Now that the (super impressive) win record is in the bag … there's really only one more major goal for Z this season …defending her BCC title.

Forget about this RA … if they want a piece of Z let them come to Cali.

And forget about the subjective HotY award … it has already been cheapened too much over the years with selections like FT and RA.


The real goal now is taking down back-to-back Classics.

First 6-year-old to win the great American race … and the first to do it on different surfaces


That's some SERIOUS stuff right there, kids.


Needless to say, though, it won't be easy … the odds are clearly against her.

But Shirreffs has to keep his eye on the ball now … and do the best that he can to get her to the Downs in the best possible condition...



17-0

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Now that the (super impressive) win record is in the bag … there's really only one more major goal for Z this season …defending her BCC title.

Forget about this RA … if they want a piece of Z let them come to Cali.

And forget about the subjective HotY award … it has already been cheapened too much over the years with selections like FT and RA.


The real goal now is taking down back-to-back Classics.

First 6-year-old to win the great American race … and the first to do it on different surfaces


That's some SERIOUS stuff right there, kids.


Needless to say, though, it won't be easy … the odds are clearly against her.

But Shirreffs has to keep his eye on the ball now … and do the best that he can to get her to the Downs in the best possible condition...



17-0

but....the record for a win streak in the modern day is 19-0. or are we all going to pretend that new mexico mare never existed like tvg is trying to do? and lol at your take on HOY. if zenyatta manages to win it this year, i'd imagine your opinion would change dramatically about it being 'subjective'.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Danzig

but....the record for a win streak in the modern day is 19-0. or are we all going to pretend that new mexico mare never existed like tvg is trying to do? and lol at your take on HOY. if zenyatta manages to win it this year, i'd imagine your opinion would change dramatically about it being 'subjective'.

Who cares about win streaks against lesser competition. I don't understand everyone's fascination with win streaks. They are stupid. Great horses lose races and its not a big deal. Beating NM breds and Grade 3 competition on synthetic doesn't do anything for me, whether they win 2 in a row or 50.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Who cares about win streaks against lesser competition. I don't understand everyone's fascination with win streaks. They are stupid. Great horses lose races and its not a big deal. Beating NM breds and Grade 3 competition on synthetic doesn't do anything for me, whether they win 2 in a row or 50.

apparently the mosses do.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Danzig

apparently the mosses do.

And a lot of the idiots on this board. It's dumb.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

but....the record for a win streak in the modern day is 19-0. or are we all going to pretend that new mexico mare never existed like tvg is trying to do? and lol at your take on HOY. if zenyatta manages to win it this year, i'd imagine your opinion would change dramatically about it being 'subjective'.

on the scroll on ESPN it said Zenyatta earns the consecutive win mark that are run in non-restricted races.

They obviously didnt ask Randy Moss or Hank over there about what a non-restricted race is before they put it on the scroll.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Now that the (super impressive) win record is in the bag … there's really only one more major goal for Z this season …defending her BCC title.

Forget about this RA … if they want a piece of Z let them come to Cali.

And forget about the subjective HotY award … it has already been cheapened too much over the years with selections like FT and RA.


The real goal now is taking down back-to-back Classics.

First 6-year-old to win the great American race … and the first to do it on different surfaces


That's some SERIOUS stuff right there, kids.


Needless to say, though, it won't be easy … the odds are clearly against her.

But Shirreffs has to keep his eye on the ball now … and do the best that he can to get her to the Downs in the best possible condition...



17-0

I'm thinking of starting a poll.

What should your new user name be.

Smooth Operatard

or

Prostate Operator

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I'm thinking of starting a poll.

What should your new user name be.

Smooth Operatard

or

Prostate Operator

Don't have to give that much thought to your new username …


LOSER1

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Don't have to give that much thought to your new username …


LOSER1

That will teach Indian Charlie not to mess with you.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

That will teach Indian Charlie not to mess with you.

LOL, yeah.

I didn't even have a comeback for such a devastating counter like that.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Forget about this RA … if they want a piece of Z let them come to Cali.

And forget about the subjective HotY award … it has already been cheapened too much over the years with selections like FT and RA.

This post must be like in elementary school where they wanted you to write a little story not so much for content but so they could get you to practice things like spelling and penmanship. This one really could've been improved by "drawerings."

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Now that the (super impressive) win record is in the bag … there's really only one more major goal for Z this season …defending her BCC title.

17-0

In other words, z will not leave SoCal and her soft spots until the BC.

I do have to give z credit for breaking Hallowed Dreams' mark of 16 wins in a row.

[Danzig]

rachel won her race faster than blame.
zenyatta on the other hand ran slower than rail trip.

now, props to her consistency for going 17-0. but consistency and greatness aren't interchangeable words. one of congaree's best races, the one in which everyone's respect for him grew, was his nose loss to milwaukee brew in the big 'cap.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Danzig

rachel won her race faster than blame.
zenyatta on the other hand ran slower than rail trip.

I thought you were better than this, my toy is bigger than yours...Your handicapping method here is so simplistic it's silly, where did you get this from a 4 yr child?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CSC

I thought you were better than this, my toy is bigger than yours...Your handicapping method here is so simplistic it's silly, where did you get this from a 4 yr child?

If you watched the Californian and thought afterwards that Zenyatta is ready to take on Rail Trip in the HOL Gold Cup then you need to get a prescription for new goggles. Hell, her own trainer isn't even willing to take him on and I don't blame them, he's back in form and loves that track.

NT

[slotdirt]

Well, in all fairness, the trainer of Rail Trip didn't exactly sound jazzed up to take on Zenyatta post-race yesterday either.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Well, in all fairness, the trainer of Rail Trip didn't exactly sound jazzed up to take on Zenyatta post-race yesterday either.

He was probably trying to avoid an argument with the gleeful Zenyatta backers.

I don't want to rain on the Zenyatta fan parade because I know she's a terrific horse who has done some very nice things. But, the hyperbole going around about yesterday's win is just idiotic. It was not a particularly strong race and ultimately presented one of the best setups she's ever had (with the BC Classic right up there as well). It should make anyone who thinks she is a legitimate contender to beat males in a race like the BC Classic understand that she's not there yet. At all.

NT

[CSC]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

If you watched the Californian and thought afterwards that Zenyatta is ready to take on Rail Trip in the HOL Gold Cup then you need to get a prescription for new goggles. Hell, her own trainer isn't even willing to take him on and I don't blame them, he's back in form and loves that track.

NT

I've seen your comments about St. Trinians and they are no surprise, funny that only works one way when your horse is discussed. When it comes to anything to do with Zenyatta barring her beating Quality Road while carrying 129 and running a 115-ish beyer, you guys just may concede she is not just the luckiest horse on earth.

BTW How much weight did the Rail Trip carry in the Californian..let me help you 118, how much weight did Zenyatta carry in the Vanity 129, I'll do the math for you guys also, that is 11lbs + more, do you want to add on a sex for age allowance also? I think she did just fine.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CSC

I've seen your comments about St. Trinians and they are no surprise, funny that only works one way when your horse is discussed. When it comes to anything to do with Zenyatta barring her beating Quality Road while carrying 129 and running a 115-ish beyer, you guys just may concede she is not just the luckiest horse on earth.

BTW How much weight did the Rail Trip carry in the Californian..let me help you 118, how much weight did Zenyatta carry in the Vanity 129, I'll do the math for you guys also, that is 11lbs + more, do you want to add on a sex for age allowance also? I think she did just fine.

There's no point in me discussing anything about this with you. You'll grasp at straws, like weight, when all else fails. However, don't insult other people's handicapping methods, especially when they're dealing with fundamentals of handicapping like final times. Unless you feel obligated to thump your chest some more about the 2 winners you posted last year.

NT

[Smooth Operator]

Danzig was probably all over Bernardini in that '06 Classic, CSC.


Way too fast for that slow pig, Invasor, dontcha know..............