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Old 06-13-2010, 07:11 PM
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I think this was her best race in her 17 race career, not from a numbers perspective or even a competition standpoint, for some reason to me, she didn't look like she was on top of her game today, if you would have asked me with 100 yds to go would she had caught St. Trinians who ran a hell of a race I would have said no. She looked beat and somehow got up to win, just as Personal Ensign willed her way to victory in the BC, these are the moments that you don't forget as a racefan whether you are a fan of West coast racing or east coast racing. I also thought Vic was right on his game today also, magical stuff.
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Old 06-13-2010, 07:12 PM
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I think this was her best race in her 17 race career, not from a numbers perspective or even a competition standpoint, for some reason to me, she didn't look like she was on top of her game today to me, if you would have asked me with 100 yds to go would she had caught St. Trinians who ran a hell of a race I would have said no. She looked beat and somehow got up to win, just as Personal Ensign willed her way to victory in the BC, these are the moments that you don't forget as a racefan whether you are a fan of West coast racing or east coast racing. I also thought Vic was right on his game today also, magical stuff.
That, ladies and gentleman, is what the sport looks like in 2010...
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Old 06-13-2010, 07:57 PM
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I think this was her best race in her 17 race career, not from a numbers perspective or even a competition standpoint, for some reason to me, she didn't look like she was on top of her game today, if you would have asked me with 100 yds to go would she had caught St. Trinians who ran a hell of a race I would have said no. She looked beat and somehow got up to win, just as Personal Ensign willed her way to victory in the BC, these are the moments that you don't forget as a racefan whether you are a fan of West coast racing or east coast racing. I also thought Vic was right on his game today also, magical stuff.
It was her best performance IMO, and I loved it, but to compare it to Personal Ensign is complete folly. Personal Ensign was hopelessly beaten at the 1/8th pole by the KENTUCKY DERBY winner, one of the 10 best fillies of my lifetime, not some barely above average G2 winner with a wacky stride.
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Old 06-13-2010, 08:01 PM
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It was her best performance IMO, and I loved it, but to compare it to Personal Ensign is complete folly. Personal Ensign was hopelessly beaten at the 1/8th pole by the KENTUCKY DERBY winner, one of the 10 best fillies of my lifetime, not some barely above average G2 winner with a wacky stride.
Running down a juiced wobbler who had stumbled at the start and made the first move into a collapsing pace is the greatest performance evar, Phil, don't mistake it.

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Old 06-13-2010, 11:33 PM
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I think this was her best race in her 17 race career, not from a numbers perspective or even a competition standpoint, for some reason to me, she didn't look like she was on top of her game today, if you would have asked me with 100 yds to go would she had caught St. Trinians who ran a hell of a race I would have said no. She looked beat and somehow got up to win, just as Personal Ensign willed her way to victory in the BC, these are the moments that you don't forget as a racefan whether you are a fan of West coast racing or east coast racing. I also thought Vic was right on his game today also, magical stuff.
Hear, hear.....
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Old 06-14-2010, 01:46 AM
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Now that the (super impressive) win record is in the bag … there's really only one more major goal for Z this season …defending her BCC title.

Forget about this RA … if they want a piece of Z let them come to Cali.

And forget about the subjective HotY award … it has already been cheapened too much over the years with selections like FT and RA.


The real goal now is taking down back-to-back Classics.

First 6-year-old to win the great American race … and the first to do it on different surfaces


That's some SERIOUS stuff right there, kids.


Needless to say, though, it won't be easy … the odds are clearly against her.

But Shirreffs has to keep his eye on the ball now … and do the best that he can to get her to the Downs in the best possible condition...



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Old 06-14-2010, 06:17 AM
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Now that the (super impressive) win record is in the bag … there's really only one more major goal for Z this season …defending her BCC title.

Forget about this RA … if they want a piece of Z let them come to Cali.

And forget about the subjective HotY award … it has already been cheapened too much over the years with selections like FT and RA.


The real goal now is taking down back-to-back Classics.

First 6-year-old to win the great American race … and the first to do it on different surfaces


That's some SERIOUS stuff right there, kids.


Needless to say, though, it won't be easy … the odds are clearly against her.

But Shirreffs has to keep his eye on the ball now … and do the best that he can to get her to the Downs in the best possible condition...



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but....the record for a win streak in the modern day is 19-0. or are we all going to pretend that new mexico mare never existed like tvg is trying to do? and lol at your take on HOY. if zenyatta manages to win it this year, i'd imagine your opinion would change dramatically about it being 'subjective'.
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Old 06-14-2010, 06:19 AM
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but....the record for a win streak in the modern day is 19-0. or are we all going to pretend that new mexico mare never existed like tvg is trying to do? and lol at your take on HOY. if zenyatta manages to win it this year, i'd imagine your opinion would change dramatically about it being 'subjective'.
Who cares about win streaks against lesser competition. I don't understand everyone's fascination with win streaks. They are stupid. Great horses lose races and its not a big deal. Beating NM breds and Grade 3 competition on synthetic doesn't do anything for me, whether they win 2 in a row or 50.
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Old 06-14-2010, 06:21 AM
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Who cares about win streaks against lesser competition. I don't understand everyone's fascination with win streaks. They are stupid. Great horses lose races and its not a big deal. Beating NM breds and Grade 3 competition on synthetic doesn't do anything for me, whether they win 2 in a row or 50.

apparently the mosses do.
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Old 06-14-2010, 06:25 AM
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apparently the mosses do.
And a lot of the idiots on this board. It's dumb.
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Old 06-14-2010, 10:34 AM
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but....the record for a win streak in the modern day is 19-0. or are we all going to pretend that new mexico mare never existed like tvg is trying to do? and lol at your take on HOY. if zenyatta manages to win it this year, i'd imagine your opinion would change dramatically about it being 'subjective'.
on the scroll on ESPN it said Zenyatta earns the consecutive win mark that are run in non-restricted races.

They obviously didnt ask Randy Moss or Hank over there about what a non-restricted race is before they put it on the scroll.
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:09 AM
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Now that the (super impressive) win record is in the bag … there's really only one more major goal for Z this season …defending her BCC title.

Forget about this RA … if they want a piece of Z let them come to Cali.

And forget about the subjective HotY award … it has already been cheapened too much over the years with selections like FT and RA.


The real goal now is taking down back-to-back Classics.

First 6-year-old to win the great American race … and the first to do it on different surfaces


That's some SERIOUS stuff right there, kids.


Needless to say, though, it won't be easy … the odds are clearly against her.

But Shirreffs has to keep his eye on the ball now … and do the best that he can to get her to the Downs in the best possible condition...



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I'm thinking of starting a poll.

What should your new user name be.

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Old 06-14-2010, 09:49 AM
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I'm thinking of starting a poll.

What should your new user name be.

Smooth Operatard

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Don't have to give that much thought to your new username …


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Old 06-14-2010, 11:58 AM
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Don't have to give that much thought to your new username …


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Old 06-14-2010, 12:26 PM
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That will teach Indian Charlie not to mess with you.
LOL, yeah.

I didn't even have a comeback for such a devastating counter like that.
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:24 AM
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Forget about this RA … if they want a piece of Z let them come to Cali.

And forget about the subjective HotY award … it has already been cheapened too much over the years with selections like FT and RA.


This post must be like in elementary school where they wanted you to write a little story not so much for content but so they could get you to practice things like spelling and penmanship. This one really could've been improved by "drawerings."
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:54 AM
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Now that the (super impressive) win record is in the bag … there's really only one more major goal for Z this season …defending her BCC title.

17-0
In other words, z will not leave SoCal and her soft spots until the BC.

I do have to give z credit for breaking Hallowed Dreams' mark of 16 wins in a row.
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Old 06-14-2010, 08:01 AM
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rachel won her race faster than blame.
zenyatta on the other hand ran slower than rail trip.

now, props to her consistency for going 17-0. but consistency and greatness aren't interchangeable words. one of congaree's best races, the one in which everyone's respect for him grew, was his nose loss to milwaukee brew in the big 'cap.
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Old 06-14-2010, 08:18 AM
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rachel won her race faster than blame.
zenyatta on the other hand ran slower than rail trip.
I thought you were better than this, my toy is bigger than yours...Your handicapping method here is so simplistic it's silly, where did you get this from a 4 yr child?
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Old 06-14-2010, 08:23 AM
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I thought you were better than this, my toy is bigger than yours...Your handicapping method here is so simplistic it's silly, where did you get this from a 4 yr child?
If you watched the Californian and thought afterwards that Zenyatta is ready to take on Rail Trip in the HOL Gold Cup then you need to get a prescription for new goggles. Hell, her own trainer isn't even willing to take him on and I don't blame them, he's back in form and loves that track.

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