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Old 05-05-2010, 09:11 PM
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Am I the only person who thinks Super Saver runs his best races, by far, at CD?

I think he's a terrible bet in the Preakness.
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:19 PM
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Am I the only person who thinks Super Saver runs his best races, by far, at CD?

I think he's a terrible bet in the Preakness.
Did you see the PPs for the Preakness? Not much there.
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:19 PM
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Did you see the PPs for the Preakness? Not much there.
Yep.

Schoolyard Dreams, for instance. He's not much.

How'd he do in the Wood and the TB race?
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Old 05-06-2010, 07:02 AM
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Yep.

Schoolyard Dreams, for instance. He's not much.

How'd he do in the Wood and the TB race?
You are resting your hopes on Schoolyard Dreams? Tampa was months ago, new ballgame now.
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Old 05-06-2010, 10:39 AM
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You are resting your hopes on Schoolyard Dreams? Tampa was months ago, new ballgame now.
Not at all man.

Just pointing out that one mediocre horse was pretty much on even terms with SS, and then came back and got his ass kicked badly.

In fact, in the Wood, the winner might never run again and the third place horse came back lame in his next start.

I think the Wood exposed the TBD race as being even weaker than everyone originally thought.
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Old 05-06-2010, 10:41 AM
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Not at all man.

Just pointing out that one mediocre horse was pretty much on even terms with SS, and then came back and got his ass kicked badly.

In fact, in the Wood, the winner might never run again and the third place horse came back lame in his next start.

I think the Wood exposed the TBD race as being even weaker than everyone originally thought.
Or Esken's performance was overrated?
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Old 05-06-2010, 11:08 AM
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Or Esken's performance was overrated?
His performances, while still the most impressive in this crop, have yeah, been overrated. At least to me anyways.

Eskendreya aside, Schoolyard Dreams still lost to Jackson Bend AND Awesome Act!

The Wood has made somewhat of a resurgence in the past decade as a good Derby prep, but man, 2010 was dreadful.
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:25 PM
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Am I the only person who thinks Super Saver runs his best races, by far, at CD?

I think he's a terrible bet in the Preakness.
I think Super Saver can run outside of CD. He won his second career race, 1 mile at Belmont in slop, on 9/09 by 7 lenghts.

I think Super Saver is live in the Preakness. He has speed, not a plodder.
The Belmont is another story though.
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Old 05-06-2010, 12:35 AM
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I think Super Saver can run outside of CD. He won his second career race, 1 mile at Belmont in slop, on 9/09 by 7 lenghts.

I think Super Saver is live in the Preakness. He has speed, not a plodder.
The Belmont is another story though.
Key word, slop, exactly what he caught at CD in the Derby...

Frankly Super Saver is a terrible bet in the Preakness. On a fast track he's no better than Dublin and frankly Dublin will get back to winning when the owners realize he's a closing sprinter, but to be honest any one of a host of runners can challenge Super Saver on a fast track in the Preakness.
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I can't blame folks who want to look at Schoolyard Dreams in this race - if he goes. He was on more than even terms with Super Saver at Tampa this winter.
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:53 AM
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I can't blame folks who want to look at Schoolyard Dreams in this race - if he goes. He was on more than even terms with Super Saver at Tampa this winter.
That's kind of a tough comparison to make when Super Saver was making his first start of 2010.

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Old 05-06-2010, 08:58 AM
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That's kind of a tough comparison to make when Super Saver was making his first start of 2010.

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Well, it's not like his second start (or third really, if we're being fair) were that much better.
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Old 05-06-2010, 09:01 AM
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Well, it's not like his second start (or third really, if we're being fair) were that much better.
What? So Super Saver's Ark Derby and Ky Derby were not much better than his Tampa Derby? I couldn't possibly agree with that.

The Tampa Derby proved to be what many thought it was. It was a trio of average horses slugging it out down the stretch with one decent horse who needed a race. He moved forward in the Ark Derby then even more so in the Ky Derby.

I'm not saying Super Saver is some rising star sent to rescue thoroughbred racing from anonymity and there are going to be plenty of knocks on him in Baltimore, but I think it's pretty clear that he's developing and I think the quick comeback may actually serve him well.

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