Done till Spa. F horse racing

[tanner12oz]

Bayern stays up and ms doesn't..

[cakes44]

If I bet MS I’m so much more pissed at Saez than the stewards.

[moses]

Probably deserved to be brought down. He not only impacted War of Will but possibly Long Range Toddy as well.

For a while, I thought he wouldn’t come down because I’ve seen worse stay up and because it’s the derby. But I can’t really object to it. I also had a wager on country house to win...so I’m a little biased. The biggest reason I honestly thought the only reason he wouldn’t come down is because of it being the derby. Normal race? Id expect him to come down.

[freddymo]

Well Steve is happy this will make for great radio

[ScottJ]

This will require watching the replays about a dozen more times to understand what happened to my choices during the race (5-8-16), but there are some facts on which we have to agree:

[1] Maximum Security came out from the 2-path to the 5-path heading into the stretch.

[2] War of Will was throwing his legs trying to avoid the leader and actually placed his left front hoof between the legs of Maximum Security in the 4-path.

[3] Maximum Security dove from the 5-path back to the 2-path and tightened the path of Code of Honor on the rail.

At the end of the arguing, Maximum Security was all over the track. As horse players, this community should be damned grateful that War of Will did not go down as it would have taken at least five others down.

Forget about the horses and jockeys which is everso important, but can you imagine the media outrage that would follow from the casual observer?

It is time for the Kentucky Rodeo to return to a reasonable horse race. This 20 horse attack needs to be rethought. Exciting? Sure. About time to enforce straight lanes for all participants.

[ACGord]

Full disclosure. I was live in the Pick-4 on two tickets with the 7. It's my worst beat ever and I think it was a bullshit takedown. I'll look at it tomorrow with a little clearer head but maaaaaan that's a tough beat.

[LITF]

Oh man...it is 100% a bullshit take down. And I fell bad for you. But **** that guy. I am glad they took him down. It’s bullshit when the game is compromised at this level. Can’t wait to play Game Winner back.

[LITF]

I'm glad they took this piece of **** horse down...**** him and **** that horse...

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by LITF

I'm glad they took this piece of **** horse down...**** him and **** that horse...

**** you and the horse you rode in on

[rocknrowl]

I see they placed MS 17th. I agree with the DQ, but behind WOW not Long Range Toddy. I think the interference was undeniable and did impact WOW. Maybe LRT, but that's questionable.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by rocknrowl

I see they placed MS 17th. I agree with the DQ, but behind WOW not Long Range Toddy. I think the interference was undeniable and did impact WOW. Maybe LRT, but that's questionable.

If they deemed it enough to warrant a DQ, he had to go behind Long Range Toddy.

[scanman]

I've been racing in 16 other countries and the likelihood of the #7 being disqualified is next to nil.

The reason for that is very simple, many of those jurisdictions have racing on tracks that are undulating and uneven, which is exactly what CD was today - uneven. With the amount of rain it took, it was impossible for the track to be even throughout. In the far turn, it was apparant that the #7 was not getting a hold of the track and did bare out at the apex, slightly impediing the #1 The #20 was not impacted by the contract at all. Saez has his stick in his right hand and it is very likely that due to the uneven nature of the track and that the centripital force of the turn caused him to bare out.

Both the #1 and the #20 had slightly over a quarter of a mile to run down the #7 in the stretch. Each were given a fair opportunity to win the race, but they could not. The #7 was clearly the fastest horse, even drawing away in the last 100 yards or so. I would be curious to know how much consideration the stewards gave to the state of the track in making their decision. If CD issues steward reports, I would be interested in reading this one.

Sadly, their decision makes racing in the US look like a "clown show" and it's not as if we haven't had/have enough problems as it is. It's no wonder that no one new wants to get involved in the sport when they see the travesty that was perpetrated today.

Simply put, horses run in races to determine who is the fastest. Normally, the fastest horse is the winner. Unfortunately, that didn't happen today.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by scanman

I've been racing in 16 other countries and the likelihood of the #7 being disqualified is next to nil.

The reason for that is very simple, many of those jurisdictions have racing on tracks that are undulating and uneven, which is exactly what CD was today - uneven. With the amount of rain it took, it was impossible for the track to be even throughout. In the far turn, it was apparant that the #7 was not getting a hold of the track and did bare out at the apex, slightly impediing the #1 The #20 was not impacted by the contract at all. Saez has his stick in his right hand and it is very likely that due to the uneven nature of the track and that the centripital force of the turn caused him to bare out.

Both the #1 and the #20 had slightly over a quarter of a mile to run down the #7 in the stretch. Each were given a fair opportunity to win the race, but they could not. The #7 was clearly the fastest horse, even drawing away in the last 100 yards or so. I would be curious to know how much consideration the stewards gave to the state of the track in making their decision. If CD issues steward reports, I would be interested in reading this one.

Sadly, their decision makes racing in the US look like a "clown show" and it's not as if we haven't had/have enough problems as it is. It's no wonder that no one new wants to get involved in the sport when they see the travesty that was perpetrated today.

Simply put, horses run in races to determine who is the fastest. Normally, the fastest horse is the winner. Unfortunately, that didn't happen today.

[LITF]

Yesterday was very frustrating. I combed over that Oaks field for hours and never once came up with the scenario that played out. I was angry that Serengeti Empress was able to control an easy pace and win. I was so pissed off. I had been alive to a Pick 4 to 8 horses, none of which were Serengeti, so I lost. And I was pissed.

Then I saw Tom Amoss's celebration. I forgot about my personal, small financial loss and was so happy for a man and his family. That was awesome. That was what horse racing is all about it.

Fast forward twenty four hours. The winning trainer didn't even seem to care that he won (I'm sure this isn't entirely true) but it was like he knew he was going to be taken down. I never saw a celebration at all. The takedown was 50/50 and it feels like they only took the horse down because the trainer is known for his "Unorthodox" style. I don't agree with the take down. But I am so glad they took that horse down. I don't know if Jason Servis is a cheater. But it sure seems like he is. I'm glad they took his horse down.

Juxtapose Tom Amoss winning the oaks verse Jason Servis winning the derby. It is all you need to know. It's ridiculous how one reacted to the other. It's like one of them knew they had over stepped their role as a ****ing cheater. **** him. I have never been so glad for a bullshit takedown in my life. **** that guy and **** horse racing.

Game Winner will win the Preakness...easy...

[wild barry]

I had two pk4 also. Its going to take awhile to put this in to past. I'm sure I be ready to play next Saturday.

[richard burch]

I think some consideration should have been applied to War Of Will trying to thru a hole that wasn't there. However MS did veer out. I think by rule they had no choice.

Only question now is "Does Saez retain the mount?"

[Bruinguybry]

Im a newer (ex fan) of horseracing I've been following this site and this bullshit game since 2015 (full disclosure i needed maximum security to hit the P5 and nice oaks/derby double) I'm done with horseracing for good now. I loved it, i taught myself how to the read the forms, i go-to keeneland every April and October since 2016. I told evryone i had at my house that they were taking the horse down as soon as Mott started chirping. They didnt want servis winning that fing thing PERIOD. Im done with this bullshit game for good! This game can't get out of its own easy. And good luck getting "new fans" I'll spend my Saturday afternoons doing other things. This game is a dying relic and that decision will be looked back on more and more of these tracks start closing. If that was baffert or pletcher or anyone besides the guy they think is a huge cheater that horse would've stayed up. I've had some very bad breaks gambling on this bullshit and I'm not going to do it again. Take care

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Im a newer (ex fan) of horseracing I've been following this site and this bullshit game since 2015 (full disclosure i needed maximum security to hit the P5 and nice oaks/derby double) I'm done with horseracing for good now. I loved it, i taught myself how to the read the forms, i go-to keeneland every April and October since 2016. I told evryone i had at my house that they were taking the horse down as soon as Mott started chirping. They didnt want servis winning that fing thing PERIOD. Im done with this bullshit game for good! This game can't get out of its own easy. And good luck getting "new fans" I'll spend my Saturday afternoons doing other things. This game is a dying relic and that decision will be looked back on more and more of these tracks start closing. If that was baffert or pletcher or anyone besides the guy they think is a huge cheater that horse would've stayed up. I've had some very bad breaks gambling on this bullshit and I'm not going to do it again. Take care

See ya!

[moses]

Originally Posted by Bruinguybry

Im a newer (ex fan) of horseracing I've been following this site and this bullshit game since 2015 (full disclosure i needed maximum security to hit the P5 and nice oaks/derby double) I'm done with horseracing for good now. I loved it, i taught myself how to the read the forms, i go-to keeneland every April and October since 2016. I told evryone i had at my house that they were taking the horse down as soon as Mott started chirping. They didnt want servis winning that fing thing PERIOD. Im done with this bullshit game for good! This game can't get out of its own easy. And good luck getting "new fans" I'll spend my Saturday afternoons doing other things. This game is a dying relic and that decision will be looked back on more and more of these tracks start closing. If that was baffert or pletcher or anyone besides the guy they think is a huge cheater that horse would've stayed up. I've had some very bad breaks gambling on this bullshit and I'm not going to do it again. Take care

Good job handicapping...but sometimes bad luck strikes. Take a couple days to calm down and let us know who you like in the Preakness.

Let’s be honest. Almost all the people who are allegedly done with racing will be back.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by moses

Let’s be honest. Almost all the people who are allegedly done with racing will be back.

Exactly. They’ll be back in 2 weeks or sooner.