How Is Obamacare Working Out for You?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

sorry. you're blaming the wrong people.
i guess back in the day, you'd have been complaining when seat belts got forced into autos.
he didn't make them get rid of those policies, they opted to do so. so, i guess he should have said if you like your plan you can keep it as long as your health care co will keep it on the books.
it was anthems call, not obamas

First of all, that is not true. The Department of Health and Human Services made it so that if any significant part of an insurance policy was changed, even if it was just the deductible or co-pay, the policy would not be grandfathered. So right there we know millions of policies won't be grandfathered.

You are right that Obama should have said that there is a very good chance you will not be able to keep your plan because those plans will be cancelled. As the NBC investigation found, the Obama Administration knew that millions of people's policies would be cancelled, yet he kept saying in his speeches that you will be able to keep your policy.

I don't know what we're arguing about. Obama got "Lie of the Year" from Politifact over this. And NBC News did a big story about how Obama intentionally lied. Did you read the article? Maybe you missed this part:

"Buried in Obamacare regulations from July 2010 is an estimate that because of normal turnover in the individual insurance market, “40 to 67 percent” of customers will not be able to keep their policy. And because many policies will have been changed since the key date, “the percentage of individual market policies losing grandfather status in a given year exceeds the 40 to 67 percent range.”

"That means the administration knew that more than 40 to 67 percent of those in the individual market would not be able to keep their plans, even if they liked them."

"Yet President Obama, who had promised in 2009, “if you like your health plan, you will be able to keep your health plan,” was still saying in 2012, “If [you] already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance.” "

"Robert Laszewski, a consultant with Health Policy and Strategy Associates, told NBC News that the administration repeatedly made a promise that officials knew couldn’t be honored."