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Old 02-10-2015, 09:57 AM
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no, you're right. health care was all just fine til obama came along and lied, and made those sweet, angelic health insurers change their oh so wonderful plans that covered everything.
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Old 02-10-2015, 10:15 AM
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no, you're right. health care was all just fine til obama came along and lied, and made those sweet, angelic health insurers change their oh so wonderful plans that covered everything.
Yes being taxed an extra 1% of my income so useless eaters can have subsidized coverage is great and fair.

Hail Obama and Arkansas democrats acting as independents.
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Old 02-10-2015, 10:34 AM
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Hail Obama and Arkansas democrats acting as independents.
And the Cuban Health Care system!!!

Finally, with the lifting of the travel embargo, some Americans might have access.

F#$k the Mayo and Cleveland Clinics.
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Old 02-10-2015, 11:21 AM
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And the Cuban Health Care system!!!

Finally, with the lifting of the travel embargo, some Americans might have access.

F#$k the Mayo and Cleveland Clinics.
Oh but you can switch to a plan that covers all doctors! Or something. It's not Obama's fault. Reading is hard for some and he's got bigger things to worry about like domestic violence awareness.

We're just racists. Bush did it. Since gas is cheap we need more road tax to cover the potholes that were supposed to be covered under a previous budget.

Or something.

Just take it! Racist!
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Old 02-10-2015, 03:36 PM
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no, you're right. health care was all just fine til obama came along and lied, and made those sweet, angelic health insurers change their oh so wonderful plans that covered everything.
I never said that. I specifically said the opposite. I said the system was far from perfect and needed reform. As I said before, I thought it was practically criminal the way Anthem kept raising my premium by around 15-20% a year. I was in favor of reform. But that doesn't mean I have to endorse Obamcare or the way he lied about it to get it passed.
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Old 02-10-2015, 04:47 PM
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I never said that. I specifically said the opposite. I said the system was far from perfect and needed reform. As I said before, I thought it was practically criminal the way Anthem kept raising my premium by around 15-20% a year. I was in favor of reform. But that doesn't mean I have to endorse Obamcare or the way he lied about it to get it passed.
i don't think he lied about it to get it passed...everyone either knew, or should have known, what was in the bill that they voted for.
i figure at some point single payer will be passed-it will have to be.
obamacare is a convoluted mess that the health insurance companies had a huge hand in writing...and i think it's disingenuous of the republicans to still go on and on about it, considering that a lot of what's in there was originally their idea.
the law is pretty much a failure at this point, since half the states voted not to expand medicaid, which means a lot of people aren't benefitting from it at all.
i get why they did what they did-i guess they figured it was better than nothing being done. it's helped a lot of people, but there are still hundreds of thousands of folks no better off than before.
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